Luka Trade: Dallas Said ‘Give Me Something to Break’… and It Was Their Future

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So, um, excuse me.

So obviously huge news and everybody's heard enough about it.

But when I found out my first reaction was, Oh shit, when Tray gets back, we got something
to talk about.

I didn't want to do, we agreed that this is not a, a weekly recap.

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get all their all their stuff in there.

But man, just in general, outside of my fandom, obviously, as you all know, like I just I
mean, outside of that, bro, just really like it was it was a shocker of a trade,

obviously.

Like it was just that was.

And.

Well, yeah, I mean, but outside of that, bro, like, yeah.

I'm saying that you're you can see because there's a special place in the Mavericks and
you're hiring at your home team.

Well, I guess I say like you can feel your friend's pain, your empathy.

Yeah, just for them though.

mean this is not has nothing to do with me.

I mean, I'm still not like Matt Yeah, but no, I mean I'm a roofer AD because I'm an AD fan
I mean I even rooted for Kyrie as well like I wasn't as big a Luka fan obviously as mass

fans where I still obviously acknowledge what a great player that he is obviously like
right, but I just I was just not Not even I wasn't even like a huge fan in terms of his

game.

I just I mean I just I'm a Laker fan.

So like obviously I watch other teams but

I just wasn't as big a fan as I was of other players.

are with the Yankees.

Yeah.

You can appreciate

Yeah, you know, I mean I can appreciate what stars they have and what players they have
and everything like that so yeah I can I can understand the kind of

You're talking this is purely as Lyft.

You were the GM or what the fuck was going on?

This is kind of the tone of it.

like, yeah, it was just like, you know, how Nico thought of it.

My first thought is that like my bad.

Excuse me.

My first thought is like Nico.

I mean, from the looks of it, he really didn't care too much for Luka.

didn't like Luka that much in terms of just how he kind of went about his business.

For the fans, that's what I'm saying.

But people as the fan, like you don't realize that they are still

running a business at the end of the day.

because one former player, Gilbert Arenas, put it in perspective, he had a really, he
actually had a really good relationship with Wizards ownership when he was playing for

them.

Right.

And he said that their owner sat him down one day, like, you know, like I said, he was
really cool with him.

And he was like, yeah, you would make a great GM if I needed you to build an actual like
team in terms of like how each player compliment each other, all that sort of stuff.

where you would

Where you lack in this is where and what everyone else doesn't see is that we're still
running a business at the end of the day.

So when you, so when you look at a team that may have won a championship and they like,
you know, kind of in a way blew the roster up or just didn't resign everybody like you

think they should is because they couldn't afford it because they can't, they're running a
business they can't afford to.

Right.

And so the owners for the Mavs don't have any sort of

any sort of ties or reasons to think about purely basketball situations, know, decisions
like most other owners, but especially these new owners, they are not, they weren't Mark

Cuban.

You know what mean?

Like these, don't, true, they didn't build this and then, you know, fall in love with the
Mavs and look at the basketball optics of it.

They really only care about making money and running their business effectively.

So do you think, but you think the Cuban the way he is, he's got the money.

I mean, but people in Dallas love Cuban, but did he have a little, not as much, I don't
want to say not as much.

Say well, he doesn't have any say anymore.

He didn't even he got a call right before the trade went to.

and but did him and Luca have a good relationship?

I mean, as far as I know, yeah, like he, mean, dude, he, I mean, Cuban publicly said that
he would, he would divorce his wife before he traded Luca while he was, you know, while he

was the owner.

So, I mean, he says that, I mean, he said that publicly.

like people and people have been saying, you know, if he still was majority owner, this
wouldn't even, the reason why Nico did this is because he has the power to do so.

Like they handed him the keys to run the team.

Well, Mark Cuban did when he, you know, hired him.

But he handed him the keys to run the team.

And this is what happened.

mean, you.

You it's just like with Jerry Jones, like you hire someone to do their job, you don't
micromanage him, you don't you let them do their job.

You're paying them all this money to do it.

Let them do it.

And if they don't do it well, then you fire them and you hire someone else that will
write.

let's the devil's advocate again.

What if Right.

It is a business, but you need people to buy your product and the fans are That so I
that's all I'm saying is

And that's where the other half of it comes in is because the NBA is going to expand and
add a team back to Seattle as well as a team in Vegas.

A lot of people are saying that this is the the math new owners plan to get Dallas to
Vegas.

But that's the.

Yeah, they want I mean, they're trying to tank the teams, they can move because you're not
going to be able to move a franchise that has that has fan attendance and good fan

support.

Wasn't this wasn't this in the movie Major League wasn't that the plot was to get the
worst team so they could sell the franchise or remove the franchise?

Yeah, interesting.

Okay.

But that is their plan is to by the time because gambling, just not going to be, they're
not going to, because remember their plan was to move the team's arena from downtown to

Irving and then do that whole casino.

Yeah.

Do that whole casino arena thing.

Venetian stands out here.

And because remember the guy, like the lady,

Her husband was the one that founded all of these fucking casinos and all this other stuff
out in Vegas.

That's how they made their money.

then apparently the, she's, so it's her husband who passed.

She's above everything, all right, in terms of like, it's her money, like all that sort of
stuff.

But the governor or the owner, the person that sits in on like the owner's meetings and
stuff like that for the NBA is apparently her son-in-law.

So he's married to her daughter.

And, um, but this is, well, this is another thing that I kind of, and however you feel out
there, however you, you voted or what a side of the fence you, you, you line up on this is

kind of irrelevant to this point.

But one of the funnier things someone has said was, so Luka was going to be looking to
sign the super max, which is going to be five years, $345 million.

Right.

So apparently.

The lady who owns the maps donated over a hundred million dollars to Trump's campaign.

So one of the jokes is that she spent Luca super max money on Trump and donated it to his
campaign.

So I just meant that has just had, I've just, that's so funny.

So people.

stole your grandmother's watch for drug money.

You, my God, you, you influenced global politics.

what people have been saying was that she spent too much money on that and doesn't have it
and don't have it.

She doesn't have enough now for Lucas money.

I mean, it's just one of those that when it was broken down, when I read it, I was like,
that's so it was meant to.

I mean, it's a joke, but it was so funny.

I was like, that is so funny that it makes it.

I mean, yeah, like, yeah, she.

Yeah, she's gonna get tax breaks if that was true

We're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars bro, like that pie is specific, you
can't, mean, you know, it's cut up in the way it's meant to be cut up.

What I'm saying is that the hundred million, if you can donate a hundred million, that
shouldn't be an issue to you.

That's for like tax anyway.

Yeah.

But again, you know, they, you know, they hire Nico to do the job.

GM president of basketball.

You know, he, they, again, they don't have any sort of ties to Luca.

They don't have any sort of ties to Mavericks basketball, really.

Right.

They're using it as an end to try to get gambling and everything legal here.

So the fact that Nico was able to just do, you know, he just, he again, he, there was a
lot of things through the past couple of years, they said he's done like firing people.

that Luca really got along with, had a good relationship with in terms of staffers, people
on the medical team and stuff like that.

Nico is if it's a power trip, which it seems like it is, it's a power trip.

But essentially, I don't really think he cared too much for Luca.

He looked past the fact of the success that they've had two out of the past three seasons
and looked at it and said.

I want to cut bait now because I mean, he he said in his own words.

He's looking more at three to four years down the line.

He doesn't really know what nine or 10 looks like because he doesn't plan on being.

Okay, so that doesn't make it, it doesn't make any sense.

Three to four years, but they've already been in two, the past few years been in that.

So what, you know, if he's not going to be nine to 10, then what's the fucking point?

And then my, thing is what did he, what did the Mavericks get in return?

I mean, you got Anthony Davis, who's a defensive player of the year candidate, all NBA
player.

mean, you didn't get like on the surface.

You got a 20, 29 first rounder.

You also got Max Christie, who's a really good two way guard.

I mean, you obviously didn't get the return theoretically you think you get for Luca, but
what people are realizing, because you keep looking at like the trace of the thunder and

people have made over the past couple of years getting all these draft picks.

You've got to take your mind off of just getting draft picks because again, these are
draft picks.

These are players that have.

These are guys that are either in middle school or regardless, whether it's even for next
year, they haven't played in the NBA yet.

Yeah, you can go out here and get a guy because Anthony Davis, like you got to think about
like this.

Anthony Davis himself is worth those three draft or those three first rounders that you
think you should have.

He is worth that.

That's why you didn't get those things.

He's 30.

He's 31 going on 32.

Again, what's the average shelf?

I mean your prime is from 27 to 32, 33 depending on the player but for the most part and
even then some guys can enter the prime a little bit earlier, 25, 26.

I mean everyone's not LeBron or stuff.

And KDK, there's a couple, there's some anomalies obviously, the top guy.

why you have to have an average because something has to go above the average.

Yeah, so I would say he's got another 80s got a solid two or three years left at the level
that he's at Two or three

just, so I watched this thing and it was because my first Google search, why is everybody
freaking out?

I that Luke was a good player.

So he went to the Lakers and you know, LeBron with him and they could get that ring.

But the guy goes, the trade is like the two of favorites was if you had a 20, 25

G Wagon and you got a 2016 Nissan Pathfinder and returned that.

And then the other one.

Anyway, and then the other one was I give you $100 and then you give me an Applebee's gift
card with $60 on it.

That may be a little more reasonable, I guess.

But like I try to explain to Victoria and I'm trying to grasp like a good analogy.

I'm like, those are actually two pretty solid ones.

I mean, I don't know if he's a pathfinder.

That's a little disrespectful, Pathfinder.

Year.

He said a G wagon too.

Like, I mean, if you're going to go on a year like that, bro, you can they can go through
a better car like 20 like, OK, 20, you.

I agree with you.

I'm not impressed with the Mercedes, but I'm just saying, I guess it was more of the
dichotomy of this $120,000 car.

this Lambo and then you got you a you got you an Acura NSX over here.

You know, I mean, it is saying it ain't the same, but but that Acura NSX is still nice.

But when that Lambo pull up next to it, it's like, OK.

The NSX is great if you got somebody who knows how to drive it.

I would say it would be like getting maybe if you had a BMW M3 and then you traded it down
for a Honda S2000.

Both fast, but like just the idea.

I mean, look, this is my thing, bro.

I understand and I get it because Lucas, Lucas and AD is not Luka.

We're not going to pretend like he is.

However, you can't pretend like, yeah, they I mean, Western Conference finals, NBA finals.

But I mean, they did lose for him to one.

And again, yes, I know how great the Celtics are as a team.

That's that's fine.

like, they don't have they don't like.

I love JT.

I love Jalen Brown, but they don't have like anyone that's just overwhelming the league.

And like think back to it in 01 whenever the Sixers played the Lakers in the finals and it
was just it was pretty much just AI.

Obviously, had Dikeembe Mutombo rest in peace.

But Dikeembe wasn't like AI's second best player wasn't Kobe or Kobe's level and also
Shaq.

was fucking Shaq.

Like that was different when AI got beat four to one in that one.

That's different.

Like, Shaq is Shaq and your second best player isn't Kobe.

The Celtics are a really good team in terms of how their pieces fit together.

But their two best players aren't Shaq or Kobe.

Like Jaylen Brown and Jaylen, it's just not Shaq and Kobe.

Right.

And so and again, Kyrie didn't play well in the finals.

We've seen him play well in the finals because he has a ring next to LeBron.

But like, you know, they

The Mavs still did lose four to one in the finals.

Like, let's not pretend like this was a, a six game defeat or a heartbreaking buzzer
beater in game seven.

Like you still lost in five games.

Like, yes, you made the finals, you know, kudos hat tip to you, but you still lost in five
games.

Like you didn't even make it to six.

Yeah.

I'm just, know.

get it.

How long has Luke have been on the Maverick?

This is that was this was the seventh year.

Okay, so and again, he's still continuing to trend up you would say Also weight wise as
well apparently but like I said, I if if if he does go on this revenge tour Rob Palinka he

fleeced Nico Harrison, but part of me as it just because I'm a dog like I just I I Need to
see it.

I need to see

They went to like fucking Timberwolves or just somebody that you have no heart for and
just think as if you were thinking about like the city of Dallas fans.

They had a memorial service outside American Airlines and it was actually pretty funny.

So the die hard.

So why why is it such a big deal?

They're saying it's the worst trade in history.

That's.

That's all I'm

Well because they thought that Nico should have opened it up to the entire league and
because all these other GMs and owners and people of executives have come out and said I

would have offered you blah blah blah blah blah and it's like I in theory yes because they
would have said because all these people are looking at is we would have they would have

offered us all these draft picks blah blah blah and again these draft pick like None of
these players are in the NBA currently and some of them depending on what year are fucking

in middle school.

It's

Sounds like they're a fake crypto coin.

They're theoretical.

And then you're also not going to get a one for one player back in terms of you're not
going to get an Anthony Davis caliber player back.

You're not like when it comes to what type of all start like you're going to like you're
going to be getting a Jimmy Butler type all star in return and you know that's not going

to be enough.

I always think of like, in like NFL draft, it's always like you trade this and we'll take
your first, you know, your first round draft pick for the next two years.

It's always something that feels fairly immediate.

You know what I mean?

I'm I'm just saying whatever, but it seems like, Hey, we'll give you this, but you'll get
this guy and we'll give you our, you know, pick whatever our pick is for the next two

years or whatever.

So, and I'm like, okay, I can wrap my brain around those, but the whole 2029 thing.

Well, yeah, it's just one of those things because it's just so far out in the future for
the most part that you're not going to be able to even tell where some of these teams are

going to be picking at that point in time.

And so it is really hard to kind of with NBA trades is really hard because again, like you
can get a team that's going to offer you seven picks and it could be, but they could trade

you a pick that they got from another team who at the time sucked.

and it could be really good now or vice versa, which is just kind of a crap shoot when it
comes to pick.

So I think I heard somebody say that the didn't he play for the he got drafted by the
Atlanta Hawks or it wasn't he like he Luca was

When they did a draft, they traded the hotchins.

day trade.

they said that was like the word, obviously they were just kind of joking.

It's like, the, the shittiness of the train.

The maps.

Yeah, the maps traded up with the Hawks to get Luca and then the Hawks jumped back.

Able to get Trayon.

But I mean, regardless, man, I just it's just one of those things that like it does
because I mean, obviously, Mavs fans had, you know, that connection and appreciation for

Luca.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, he was headed that way.

So again, it was another guy that they drafted groomed themselves to have a homegrown
star, that sort of thing.

But I mean, the way they acted, though, was like

Dallas isn't fuck.

Dallas isn't Milwaukee, bro.

Like, and I had a guy at the barbershop try to educate me on Milwaukee's history and
whatnot.

Yeah.

Right.

Like, I was like, bro, like I respect you all.

Like you had Oscar Robertson, had Kareem.

There's a couple of opportunities where you could have been, you know, one of the top
dynasties in the East.

Yeah.

But you didn't.

And it didn't happen.

But it's Milwaukee, bro.

But Dallas is not Milwaukee.

It's the fifth biggest media market in the country.

Like

Other than fucking LA, New York, Miami and Chicago, like Dallas is literally right there.

So I don't get behind the whole pretending like Dallas is just, I mean, obviously it's not
fucking LA, but Miami ain't LA.

I mean,

God, I mean, just the stars and the mavericks playing the same stadium at the Rangers.

I mean, there's four major.

They pretend like Dallas is just this woe is me city.

I'm like motherfucker, have you walk around where you live?

like it's Dallas bro.

Like this is one of biggest cities out there.

Yeah, like and for them to pretend like Dallas like just because you haven't had the
winning history that other teams have had like I mean think about the Celtics won most of

their rings in the fucking 60s, the 50s and 60s.

I mean, that's the reason why they're able to talk like they talk.

After Larry Bird,

After the 80s, they didn't win again to 08 and then last year like come like bro don't
pretend like just cuz they won all these in the 60s and 70s and in 50s like I mean that's

cool and all whatever I mean Like we went to the Texas LSU game and no disrespect to Bob
Pettit because he went to LSU they honored him after you know during the game and whatnot

and My girlfriend was like who is that?

I'm like, it's Bob Pettit.

He's one of the greatest, you know forwards to play and everything and

The announcer for LSU was like one of the greatest or considered the greatest power
forward in NBA history.

And I was like, did fucking Tim Duncan die or something like respect by Pettit, bro?

But you played in the 50s, bro.

Like, mean, come on, like, be for.

I would love to see him come try to guard A.D.

right now.

Yeah, like, you know, like.

You gotta go like relative.

come on, bro.

Like I would love to see there's a few power for us now.

Not even on a level I would have liked to see him try to guard right now.

Like in today's game, I come on, bro.

But regardless, like I said, man, it is it was since shockwaves because it's like how
could you trade a player of this caliber?

You know, a to the Lakers because it's the Lakers and, you know, everyone feels how they
feel about that.

But also just like again, when they got the deal that they got back, that's because the
the Mavs GM, Nico

Harrison and Rob Polinka have a long standing relationship.

So it was two friends making a deal with each other.

That's what people are forgetting is that it's not just the whole Lakers dynamic and
things like they were, they're two friends, like long time friends.

they're connected.

I mean, I got my Kobe shirt on like they bonded over Kobe because Rob Polinka was his
agent and business partner.

Nico Harrison was one of the Nike reps that was close.

That was always doing business with those two, always flying around with them.

So

They have a long standing relationship and Nico Harrison, the reason why he went and got
Kyrie Irving and why Kyrie stayed, because he had a relationship with Nico Harrison back

when he was with Nike.

And guess who was on the Olympic team at 18 was the college player that was on there with
Kobe.

And when Nico was on the Olympic staff with Nike, it was Anthony Davis.

No, no, was Anthony Davis.

He's had a relationship with these guys for 10 plus years.

So it one of those things where it's about relationships.

In honesty, I mean,

Even though he's Australian, I don't really think Nico likes foreign players that

I do a lot of Australian races.

don't think he likes foreigners.

just there was just something like just I understand why mass because there was just
something about a Luca that pissed Nico off.

I don't know what it is.

I guess.

Well, the conditioning.

There was all these things that went into it and people were like, well, Mark, Keith
Morris, the guy, one of the guys that came back with the Lakers to the Lakers.

He was on our championship team, actually, in 2020.

He was saying that, you know, if you can go out there and drop 30, 10 and 10.

And that's called and doing that out of shape.

He said, I don't even know what like being in shape is in that case, which I get.

But I will say this, though, and I'm going to make sure all Mavs fans notice we are going
to love and appreciate Luca like our own.

is, you know, the way it came about is the way it came about.

But this this is not a game, though.

I'm going say this like this window is we're on Lucas timeline now.

Yes.

But like.

If you think Braun doesn't want to still win or attempt to win, you've got the game fucked
up.

this showing up out of shape shit and you can drink, have a good time, whatever, in off
season and all that shit.

But when it comes time to play these 82 from October to April and then, know, however far
we go in the playoffs, we make it, know, whatever.

That's time to be in shape and out there, best condition to go out there and dominate
because there's no reason for you to be showing up at 260, 270 at

at 25 years old.

I'm sorry, there's just no reason for that.

ignorance.

The trade is already so he's out in LA already.

Y'all were they had his introductory press conference this morning?

He's supposed to make his debut potentially on Saturday.

That's the kick in the dick of-

because he hadn't played at all for the Mavs in the past.

Well, him and he'd been out, but.

Well, I don't know about all that.

We're not even finished the season, but that's just really awkward.

That's kind of awkward.

Well, I don't know, but you know, I'm one year from retirement, like, you know, I'm about
to get my pen.

no, bro, like letting a guy you traded finish the season with your team, bro, like this is

Keep it under wraps dude.

Let the trade happen at the end of the season.

Just let them, you know.

I don't know.

I'm just.

The whole team just let it be going on behind the

see, that's the thing is this did go on behind the scenes.

That's why that's why the Lakers were the only team he negotiated with because he knew if
he got out, it was just going to turn into a shit storm because everybody's going to be

coming to him with offers that he's going to have to weigh that he knows he's not going
to.

That's what he like.

He's not like he's not going to take any of these offers because he knows there's there's
only a there's like Wimby in San Antonio.

Yonis with the Bucks.

Like there's certain guys that you weren't going to be able to get back that when you when
you left that list of players and went to the next one.

None of those players were on Anthony Davis's level.

That's what he was.

That's why he took the deal that he took because he I mean, he just knew he wasn't he
because they went to the Bucks and asked for Yannis and they said, fuck no.

And so like at that point, if you know you can't get if you can't get Yannis on he and
he's that high on the Untouchable list.

I mean, it's just you got to keep working your way down.

It's not going.

You.

Well, I'm just it's just objectively, I'm just trying to give you the look into what like
it was.

It wasn't a smart move.

It wasn't.

If you look at it on through a certain lens.

But there's other lenses you can look at this through.

I I agree.

I'm Nico, I'm not offering Luca to anybody.

Now, if they approach me, that's one thing.

But I'm not offering him to anybody.

I'm thinking of like Django where it's like you make them an offer that's so ridiculous.

Yeah

Like I'm not offering him to anybody, but if this already made up in your mind that you're
getting rid of them, I mean, and again, whether that's the right or wrong decision, we're

not going to know right now.

It's still so fresh.

such a big shock that we, I mean, we're not going to know.

And again, you could say that the Mavs future is now a mortgage because of that and that
Luca, what, in which case that's, that's true in terms of him being the future, but you

really don't know what

Direction things could have gone with his contract.

He Nick that is one like Nico pointed that out.

He said What did did we get any inclination that he wasn't gonna sign the supermax?

No, but think about this He's 25.

He signs that five-year deal He gets in that well, he gets another con he comes up again
at 30 He's still not out of his prime yet So say you've got a I mean at that point then

you resign that that supermax and you got to do everything you can and win as many titles
as you can

in that five years and say you don't come away with any, then what does he do?

You not only don't get any titles, you paid him all this money and then he leaves your
franchise anyway.

So it's one of those things.

There's a lot of layers to it.

And again, he he he did not say he wasn't going to resign.

Obviously, everyone thinks he would have.

But if you don't accomplish those things while he has a resign, what did I mean?

You gave him three hundred forty five million dollars for what?

I don't know, I'm just-

I'm just saying I just I just I get it.

I totally understand.

Even as a lake, I'm I was I was shocked and I didn't want to get rid of Anthony Davis
unless it was for and unless it was for this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, like, yeah, like, yeah.

Like if I was like, we like because in my book, I didn't want to get like there's no
reason to trade a D.

But if we're going to get Luca back, I mean, I'm not going to be I'm not going to say no.

Right.

Right.

I'm not to say no.

So like, you know, I get it.

I just feel like, man, I, was one of those things where two friends made a deal with each
other and every, it happened to work out for not only the Lakers, but also for the owners

of the Mavericks who their whole thing is getting this, this arena casino double going
like, again, sorry, city of Dallas fans of Dallas.

Like the owners don't give a fuck about y'all.

I'm sorry.

And quite frankly, and it's understandable to be upset, like.

They've blake, I mean, they made it pretty blatant, even when they bought the team, I feel
like we I feel like when it's those type of people, like when it's when that is what they

made their fortune on and you already have the talks and swirlings of the NBA trying to
move the I mean.

I feel like it was just pretty blatant.

I just can't believe that they're really trying to the NBA or the Mavericks out of Dallas

I mean, I don't think they they're actively trying to do it.

I think that they're threatening to do it so that Texas will approve what they want to
prove when it comes to gambling.

I don't think I genuinely know they don't.

They don't want to say they don't want to go to Vegas, but they're saying like we will
leverage.

We will fucking move to Vegas if we don't get.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

So and you know, and then they're like, you're going to have to start pretty much all over
in terms of getting investors.

to start it, I mean, somebody would make a team in Dallas again like that.

But you're going to have to go through this whole fucking process of making a whole new
franchise, having to come up with a new logo, new name, like do all that sort of shit.

The new franchise dude, it takes years.

When you just had a team here, you not that long, you know I mean?

So that's what they're trying to get them to do.

And I feel like it could work.

It could not work.

I don't know.

But I just it's it does suck, man, because it's just like.

It's a punch in the face.

Yeah, it's just like, it's so fucked up, I mean, somehow, man, Jeannie Buss keeps
stumbling ass backwards into these generational superstars for the Lakers, man.

So, hey, man, RIP Dr.

Jerry Buss, man.

I just want to say, you know, even though I wasn't alive when you started this whole
train, man, it just, hey, I can't even sit here and say that I was, my fandom was

influenced by something I wasn't alive to see.

And I was so young when they first 3-peated, I told people, bro, like literally,

The first piece of sports merch I ever got was a white Lakers shirt with the logo.

And that was when I was like six.

So that was like right after, that was like right after the three P.

And then like, I remember losing.

I remember the Lakers lost to the Spurs who went on to the finals.

And then I also remember when they lost to the Pistons in the finals.

No, no, that was, I haven't seen you was 01 whenever the late beat the Sixers, but in 03,
lot of the Spurs went and won it and they lost to the Spurs in the playoffs.

And then in 04 beat the Spurs, but then went and lost to the Pistons in the finals.

And then after that, they traded Shaq.

And I remember after the Shaq trade, I wasn't even like, I was young still, but I was
like, not even upset.

I was just like, damn.

I mean, I just get to watch Kobe every night then.

you know what I mean?

I get to watch Kobe every night.

Like we still got Kobe.

you know what I mean?

Like I was, that's who I was really worried about.

Cause Shaq was getting up there in age at that point anyway.

So.

He wasn't me in no man-

to me it was just like, mean, shit, you know, they got beef, whatever's going on, cool.

Get his ass up out of there.

I still got code, you know what saying?

you know, got the shirt of code with my first tattoo.

I mean, like, you know, it's just a lot that goes into this.

the fact that Genie Bust, man, and this just keeps and Rob, Rob Pelinka, man, shout out to
Rob, man.

He went and got Nico, got Nico Harrison drunk over there and had him talking about, yeah,
man, would you trade?

AD for Luca and Rob was like, you being for real?

We'll sign it up here on the cocktail napkin.

Yeah, no god.

It was bro.

They said they was at Ascension up there at Crescent Court That was where they had the
nose.

That's what they that's what the ESPN article said That's where they had the first meeting
at because it's when the Lakers came to town to play them the first time around

Tell people who don't know.

so over there, Crescent Court up the street where all the, we're visiting teams that like
visiting the teams that are playing the Mavs and the Stars and stuff normally play.

it's shit.

I mean, probably the nicest hotel in Dallas.

I'd Yeah, it's up there.

So it was up there.

Got an oboe and everything like that, but they got an Ascension coffee shop.

Really good, by the way, that is, in the little lobby, down at the bottom.

It's only about a mile away.

Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's right up the street so like if you know if your
bands long and you can afford a room while you come up in here and fuck with Wes and let

him Produce your podcast man.

Hey, you know where to stay for it.

That's where that's where Nico Harrison and Rob Plinko first had that discussion that they
said so it's pretty crazy man Cuz we didn't sat in that essentially before just cool and

you know having a brunch and what not

do like a live broadcast from there with our portable mic.

I'm gonna go in there and ask him, like, bro, where was they sitting at?

You saw them there.

Where was they sitting at, bro?

What happened?

Where was they sitting at, bro?

We want to sit in that very spot, man.

I want to sit right there.

But I want to say, man, I was at the, so we was at the bar the night that that tray
dropped and I actually had on my Lakers jersey.

I was watching the game.

They played the Knicks on ABC.

So got the dub too.

Shout out, Bron.

That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah, two, three.

Keep doing your thing.

But yeah, I ain't Reeves, Austin Reeves.

I ain't forget about you, baby.

see you.

just got there.

Look, I did had a coldest white boy in the league and then, you know, I had to go get
another one.

So, you know, we got both of them now.

So, know what it is other than, other than Yocut.

You know, Yocut's out there in Denver doing his thing.

But I was wearing my jersey and like I looked and I looked at Zo and Claire and I was
like, Oh my God.

And they were like, what?

And I was like,

I said, we just got Luca.

just, and I just walked out, had to go outside.

And I was just like, bro, this is crazy.

One of my homies, Darien, shout out Darien, called me, he a Mast Fan.

He was like, bro, what's going on?

And I said, dog, I don't know.

But I just said, from the looks of it, we just got Luca up off y'all.

And I don't know how Rob did it, but Rob.

is the same reaction that if you were on like, uh, on an organ transplant list, like I got
a call.

Yeah, we got that liver for you.

man, man, y'all would have fucked me up with this one.

It's like, I'm gonna go cry right now.

Yeah, bro.

Like, yeah, that was crazy, man.

you know, I just I just want to say, man, shout out to shout out to Rob Palinka for
getting that deal done.

Hopefully he keep making some moves.

But we got no bigs now.

We only got we only got Jackson Hayes, man.

So they shout out Jackson, though, you know, Hook'em, maybe.

But, know, we got to keep keep making a couple moves.

If not, he said we're going to go into the to the offseason with about 40 million cap
space and go hopefully sign a big.

But.

but in 2029, not so fast.

And that's so far in the future.

But it's really not though, which is crazy.

But it is, but it ain't.

yeah, man, I just that was just it was crazy that you immediately thought of me when that
shit dropped because I was.

I was gonna go, cause you are very good at debate going, looking at both sides.

you know, I was like, either he's gonna rant.

I mean, you see, I could have took it a whole different way as a Laker fan.

I've been trying to be so, like so respectful to Mazz fans.

Cause I know that it wasn't like Luca left or nothing like that.

It was literally y'all's GM just.

Yeah.

He made a decision that he thought he should make.

And again, we'll see if it works out again, you know, hindsight.

So now you have more people going against you.

Oh man, I, you know, wearing Laker stuff now, was already, it was already, it was already
hostile, man.

But hey, this what we took this on for, man.

We good with it, you know, I'll take it all.

Yeah, mean, so I'm just glad.

Yeah, it was the first thing because it was it was dominating.

I saw Camille Nanjiani on Sunday and even he mentioned it.

Yeah.

He's like, I feel for you, Dallas.

I'm sorry.

He's like, this is not a bit.

I'm so sorry.

And then, know, I'm obviously always here, you know, about the Lakers and they're always
like, you just get whoever you want, blah, blah.

But I will say this though, it was a trade.

Like, let's just keep it a bug.

And Braun came in free agency and Shaq came in free agency.

And the only reason we got Shaq is because the Orlando Sentinel ran that, most people
don't know, Orlando Sentinel ran a poll on whether they said is Shaq worth the contract?

was like seven years, or seven or eight years, $115 million.

And they have mostly voted no that he wasn't worth it.

it pissed him off and he left.

And he left.

Yeah.

And he left.

again.

The lano magic in the 90s with the with hard away.

it's okay

And then, you know, like I said, bro, like trade, it's only two free agency pickups,
really.

Kobe got traded.

That was, it was some collusion that happened, but you know, it just, it is what it is,
man.

Man, Charlotte wasn't finna do nothing with Kobe.

Come on, be real.

Yeah.

They can't get right.

You don't got no spud.

What now?

Was Spud what?

Or my herb.

What's a Muggsy?

Muggs, no, Bugsie man, you right, Muggs.

Muggs was there, but like, you know, they wouldn't do that.

Yeah.

Yeah, bro.

That was all we had.

then we got to get the purge.

It's really actually going with a very very

I was cool today because I really feel like that was one of these times like That too but
also because like there's a lot of misunderstandings out there and there's a lot of things

behind the scenes that I've been reading up on that seems that makes sense and line up and
as much as it sucks It's the reality of the situation.

So I mean, yeah, you know it is what it is Good Good, you know what we doing there Let us
know

Hell yeah baby.

What's up?

Hi buddy.

yeah.

Get it!