The NBA's Loyalty Problem

Speaker 2 (00:00.258)
Yeah, they go out of their way to make the US Open be a nightmare for everybody. Yeah. So that's kind of the point of it. That's why Tiger crushes so much because he's just the king of impossible shots. Yeah. That's why he's breaking his kneecap doing it. I mean, that's what he did.

I mean, yeah, you're getting...

Speaker 1 (00:11.35)
Literally, yeah, no, they were talking about something with how they did the grass.

Wasn't the hookers from Chili's?

Applebee's don't be

Hey, Applebee's your neighborhood bar and grill,

I'm sorry,

Speaker 2 (00:27.36)
I'm a chile stew, but I think he

I never knew that there was a competition between the two. I always liked them both equally.

Dude, yeah, it's crazy. Come on, so you're

go to a restaurant if you had to pick one of the chain ones you have chilies you have fridays you have applebees you have like all those types what would you choose

I mean, this is the thing. I'm choosing... Throw a... I'm going to Chili's, but that's like... I'm choosing them for different reasons, though. So that's why I don't think... I never knew there was a competition, because I'm not going... Like, I don't put my going to Apple Visa in the same discussion as me going to Chili's. I'll go to Chili's. Like, if I got a week and I had to pick one of those two...

Speaker 2 (00:48.578)
Bennegan's and

Speaker 3 (00:55.896)
Okay, so we just.

Speaker 1 (01:08.906)
every day, but I can only pick one. I would probably go to Chili's five of the seven days. I still hit my applebees twice. You know what mean? Like I did. I'm going to Applebee's for different reasons than Chili's, to be honest. See, I didn't know that. I didn't group. I never group those those together.

The flair. By the way, I'm pretty sure Friday's went out of business.

I think they're only in the airport.

Yeah, Fridays go or whatever.

Maybe it's gone. Yeah, but the flair I guess you could say but also I mean I don't know Applebee's just what effected it stays open so late It just attracts a different kind of crowd So if you don't want to go to an actual actual like bar, right, but you still want to get that feel Personally Applebee's is that but you can also have fun in the restaurant portion of it, you know

Speaker 3 (01:58.67)
It's fun to chat and...

Depends on the DJ and we had one and then we had one in didn't that there was it like well Not even the DJ but who was on the ox at what co-worker what worker what person working there was on the ox? Because we used to go to one and then because it was actually like you would go in there to turn up But you was actually going in there like I'm going to Chili's that have like to eat and like have a good time Yeah, like legit. I'm going to Chili's to like enjoy my time at Chili's we was legit going to Applebee's for like pregame or you know you was going there to like

more sophisticated.

Speaker 2 (02:27.054)
You're going Chile to meet your girlfriend's parents.

Kicking it at Chili's but like Applebee's you was in there and you was more so like you you were just having a good time like honestly you were straight up having a good time then that was just us I don't know I guess why I didn't know this because I was like

We're sending password gonna

I mean, I'm just like, that's all.

franchises had like their competition to like Red Lobster and Sizzler

Speaker 1 (02:49.614)
I ain't never had a sizzle, man. I know Red Lobster was crazy. We used to go to Red Lobster like crazy, Oh my God.

I heard there was beef though.

I haven't either

You've been to Red Lobster. Bro, why? Oh my goodness. We lived on the East Coast. why would I go? That's like me saying, like, you haven't lived since you, if you haven't gone to the Olive Garden.

because

Speaker 1 (03:08.14)
I mean, back in the day, yeah, but back in the day, all of God was going crazy.

So they got competition, got carabas, macaroni, grill?

Yeah, well, so my big thing in college was on the border. You get a tortilla soup, which was like a fucking too.

on the board it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:22.748)
that was like the sit down. I was thinking of Kodoba for a minute.

No, no, no. So, but on the border you can get like.

Like a

Yeah, Wes would do his laundry in that fucking soup, dude. He got that thing every single time we went there.

I spent my money on booze and drugs. So I don't think I had to eat at some point. It was $4.

Speaker 1 (03:38.708)
I don't think I ever really ate it on the border, but we would go to it, but we would go there to get some margaritas and get in a pregame. was a nice pregame. That's that's what I'm saying was like a lot of these places for us was pregames. We wasn't there to actually sit and have a good time. We was having a pregame. We was moving to like we was getting.

The first place me and Wes went to Wilmington was Chili's. I mean like I forgot the barter the witch's name But we would go back and just hang out we we spent a decent amount of I mean Chili's is inexpensive, but like

See,

It's not cheap though.

No, those margaritas they give you and those little shakers though, we must have stole like 20 of them. Yeah. Presidente. But those things are just watered down and...

Speaker 3 (04:13.454)
Yeah, they're like $8. So that's where it's really hard to get drunk.

Speaker 1 (04:21.21)
What are you talking about? That's what I'm telling Twitch you on game, Wes. We was in there turning up.

Is that one dollar, Mick?

Speaker 2 (04:30.656)
He's like baptism receptions.

I'm trying to explain to you, but we I'm trying to put you on game, right? they deals was crazy, For it must have been a didn't thing cuz bro that man what?

He's bringing him to the strip club now.

I'll get maybe in debt but-

Speaker 3 (04:44.782)
Because if I told Matt, I was like, yo, let's go to Applebee's. He'd like, get the fuck out of here.

My friends was gonna be like, drunk are we? My friends first question would have been where are we taking this? Like how drunk are we getting? Where are we this? Is this gonna end up at the bars bars or are gonna go to the bars?

Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:59.426)
Those kind of.

Speaker 3 (05:06.958)
What's the difference between the bars?

The bars is if you want to go to the square and be sophisticated like Matt was saying. Like if you want to take chilies to the bars, you're to go to the square and be a little more sophisticated with the older folks. Cheaper than that. yes. The squares are going to be the craft beers and all that shit. Now going to Fry Street is the college scene. That's where you're going to go to the bars bars where it's just going to get grimy and sinny. You know what I'm saying?

So that's like the $5 beers. Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:34.39)
Yeah, we all had to.

It's penny beers and shit.

That was.

Dollar dubs from 9 to 11, you know, mean dollar double you get a double vodka soda for a dollar. Yeah

Was it bartenders

Speaker 1 (05:46.072)
Later

Yeah, that was a rum runners that did the unlimited, like all you can drink. Yeah. I remember just sitting there. I'm like, here's 60 bucks. Here's your tip. Just leave that bottle right in front of me.

Was that the Dylan Pianos? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:57.644)
Yeah, bro, like.

It was like the place that gave you like punch bowls with five straws like everybody got chlamydia. It was disgusting

We had one of those, we had one of those Matt, and name of the place, believe it or not, still is the name, is Dirty Dicks.

Richard or just

Yes, it's yes, so the dead there, but dirty dick is dirty

Speaker 3 (06:18.734)
We're just getting some. Would you say you're going to get your dick on?

No, I don't think Dicks, but you would get a fishbowl and you would get you would get the straws I mean, I don't know if anybody ever said that bro, but like I mean shit some people could have been thinking it Oh, no, no, I wasn't saying that but and I mean Yeah, well, I'm not in didn't bro. Not not not not didn't bro cuz you know, it's a little different everybody's just got a little smorgasbord of your shit Yeah, you find people with blue and pink hair and shit out there all the time. So

I keep going to dirty

Speaker 3 (06:34.156)
That's the only thing I can think of like let's go get a dick down, dude

I you having me up for that.

Speaker 1 (06:52.93)
But nah, it's cool, bro. It's an art school. It's dope, bro. really do. Shout out, Go Mean Green. You always know we gonna rep. And listen, I'm telling y'all, bro, whenever you would go from Applebee's to Fry Street, it was over with. Like your night was gonna end so crazy. It was just a combination of things, bro. It's just how it happened.

I'm more I'm I'm not hating. I'm just like I'm I want to hear your college experience.

I'm

Oh, I'm just telling you bro. That's why Applebee's and Chili's are just on the opposite end of the spectrum. There was no beef in my mind. just that's I just that was just why I was getting that no beef. No beef. Yeah, I'm not like I'm not like I've had to pick one for the rest of my life. I'm picking Chili's. Don't get it twisted. But if I can keep the if I can keep Applebee's with me cool. It's happening in the back pocket. I mean, having a back pocket. You know, mean, like we can have Applebee's on the side. Yeah.

Wasn't even a comparison.

Speaker 3 (07:38.211)
The

Speaker 2 (07:41.558)
with Apple view prices.

So, so what we were talking about before...

We're talking about the US got a US Open, but it was his first round. we, you know, give a little acknowledgement there. I mean, last night, obviously we had game three of the finals. The Pacers did win that. It was at 116 to 107. So big home win for them to go up two one. Again, both of my predictions right now on both sports are looking shaky, but hopefully again, if they go, if it happens, they're going to be in seven, it looks like. So I said, I hope they both go to seven. So we'll see.

There's a lot of golf

Speaker 3 (08:20.952)
So, not we, but you guys all guessed this was gonna be seven games.

Everybody I don't think anybody outside this state of Indiana picked the Pacers to win this yeah like nobody they lost the the Thunder lost to one Eastern Conference team this year Oh, well like I don't even know who I can't remember but I lost to one Eastern Conference team. They won 66 games

Yeah, that's pretty solid, not gonna lie.

That's such a and the Pacers I believe were like five or six seed with a month left to go like like they I think that's where they finished you but they were not I mean they what they went to these comp finals last year, right? That's cuz the I mean again I can't really say it now because they did be no fair and square this year But the Knicks were they was down three men. Yeah, it was her Brunson like they were banged up But so I kind of gave him a pass, but then everyone said it was luck and I guess they they took a person

Speaker 1 (09:08.152)
They that I was just about to they took that and I took that personally. Yeah, I'm about to find Milwaukee, yeah that thunder lost in Milwaukee in December And now they've lost two games to these

Although it is.

Amen.

Speaker 1 (09:26.752)
So I mean

Two teams.

Has there been like any any highlights or what if like so obvious?

mean again the Thunder were up I think 15 early and then last time I checked it was back to they were coming from behind and it's just it's they got a good system over there I mean the coach is really just putting it together but yeah but the Thunder again they're this youngest team in the league I believe

Cleveland they lost the NBA Cup game in Milwaukee. That's what that is. I'm like what? That's why they don't that's why I was that's why I looked at it like that. Yeah, that's why it

Speaker 2 (09:59.608)
Those don't even count as standings, right? don't. Next for game.

Speaker 2 (10:07.946)
gets a hundred grand to win yeah that's that is I mean for guys on like 10-day contracts that's a lottery right but LeBron sneezes that

crazy.

Speaker 3 (10:19.308)
Yeah. So what is,

I'm pretty sure when they won two years ago Lebron said he gave like some of the guys his check and stuff like that I mean you kind of should do

you

What do mean you gave him this chip?

So if you win the NBA Cup they do in the middle of season it's kind of like first quarter the second quarter of year, but Every player gets a hundred grand for when the in-season tournament. Never play on the roster. So the guys that are like I said, I don't

Speaker 1 (10:45.878)
That's

bronze list you like dude I sneeze at that yeah yeah I get it

No, literally.

That was nice.

Well, I mean they should when you're making 60 million a year like worth a billion dollars

Speaker 1 (10:59.086)
Type shit. The fucking sons are supposed to be offering Devon Booker a two year 150 extension. I saw that. 75 a year.

They're trying to pair him in if we get Durant instead of Giannis. saying they want to Caron three towns there so they can pair them to from back in Kentucky, which would be a good future for them, but

That'd be cool, but like,

I don't know how we're gonna do both with him, with Yannis and Katie. I mean, if they just do a straight swap with Kat and Durant, that's one thing, but we're gonna have to give up.

Yeah, I'm starting to think I don't know if Yannis is gonna leave though now. It's just it's just

Speaker 2 (11:35.307)
There's different reports they're saying like but if they but if they can bring another guy in there and then I cuz dames like day And by the time he comes back, let's say arguably the following season. He's gonna be what 35

I'll be back.

Speaker 1 (11:45.896)
I should say six. Yeah, yeah be older than that Not a good yet. It's not a good injury for him to be coming back from. Yeah

Coming off an Achilles, like that's wild.

Speaker 2 (11:54.158)
But I mean, I was about to say they still have Kuzma, but then I'll just smack myself. Like, I mean, he can play, but I mean, I don't know. If I was him, I'd get out there. Because, I mean, Yannis is still only 30. Like, he's not an old guy. you're technically your athletic pride.

He's still gonna have like three or four more years of playing at the level.

He'll be any player for the next four years or so But and again like with how everyone's training in medicine now like people's primes these say people's primes was 27 to 30

But nowadays it's even yeah, I mean you start it started it can start sooner and they can end a lot further Yeah, you know further along bra and there like you said, he definitely is one of them dudes man that is showing it you Yeah

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:29.87)
Only one thing you want to but and but a yas is one of those guys to that we were talking about like a Katie like he just loves basketball. That's all he wants to do That's his only focus is right. He wants just wants to play

and he'll do whatever it takes to continue to take care of himself to do.

I think it's good for him to like no one in Milwaukee's gonna bat an eye or like like you yeah Yeah, mean I your thing like he did but only one other Hall of Famers ever done and well too I guess was it Well, he was Llewellyn Sunder at the time yeah Kareem and then Oscar Robertson. Yeah, so I mean he's done his thing I guess I was him like for his brand like you know his people are like dude like go to a big market Yeah, even his wife's probably just get the fuck out of here

You gave him a championship. Are there multiple MVPs?

Speaker 1 (13:13.166)
No, honestly bro.

Do we want to be here?

He's such a loyal guy, especially because he comes from humble beginnings that he's like they drafted him. They saved his life. Yeah. Like he feels a debt of gratitude to him. I guess. It took care of his brothers and they didn't have to. They've been good to him. So I understand where he's coming from. Like, I owe these guys at the same time. Like they're probably like, dude, like, we're good. Like you brought us. Yeah. Like if you want to.

I say this family.

They're likeable,

Speaker 1 (13:33.827)
Yeah.

On top of that you gotta remember a lot of times like cuz they got new ownership So I mean shit the Celtics and them about the other the same thing like a lot of times I'm gonna do it They way, you know, I mean like it don't matter like what happened with the last people that was in here cool I don't give a fuck. This is my shit now. I want to do it

Dame didn't get hurt in the way that he did and then yeah, he got it be a different story, right? Because they only had what like one and half years play together. Mm-hmm. Really? Yeah It's got like a full off scene together like Debbie Holder. I mean, it's a huge what it look not what if I mean, it's not happening Yeah, um, that'd be a different story. But now yeah, I think he's even if it's not the Knicks if I were him I would just look

Literally.

Speaker 1 (14:11.02)
go somewhere else. I mean, even Miami.

Yeah, I mean, it's not a it's a different city.

It's not even a big like cuz people like Miami's really not like a big market like in that sense like in this my man It's not the level of New York Miami but it's not yeah Well, I'm just saying yeah, Milwaukee's down there Detroit all them type of city. Yeah

It's not New York, L.A., Chicago, it's not like that. It's right there. I Milwaukee's a...

Speaker 2 (14:33.762)
But the other rumor I was seeing was that him and KD had been talking about teaming up in Toronto, which again is like, that's cool for his... I'm talking from like a winning standpoint. Toronto's bigger. it's like...

It's cold.

Need to see Katie go to Toronto though, like willing. Well, that's what I just Katie don't strike me as a person that would like willingly go to Canada. I he he he he a DC cat like he I would need to see that happen. Honestly, like because I mean, this has got to be a trade and he's got me. They're trying to work through options. I can see it maybe because if it's only going to be for like two years, three years, maybe. But like

people boot him and

Speaker 1 (15:14.35)
Just, Katie, just don't strike me as a person that would want to go to...

Let's say for argument's sake which I don't see happening, but you never know the way this year's gone. Let's say The Pacers blow out the next two games. Yeah, and he's like what if I know? Last time if they won I would like there's no way he goes But if they get blown out like the next couple games and they went for one which again don't see happening They have so many first-round picks that

I still will always tell people obviously you don't agree with the decision to go to Golden State the way it happened but for people to say that his rings don't count I'm like bro that man can literally come and put them in front of your face. He got the ring!

I wouldn't give him a hard time for that.

Not as bad as going state.

Speaker 2 (16:01.134)
course they count and he was the best player on the team, but at the same time too like it's So much more clear now that we see what he is like he just wants to be always keep saying he just wants to go He doesn't want to be a leader. Yeah, and that was the perfect thing. It was all set for him Stefan Dreyman were technical leaders. I Clay did his thing and plays the man but All he had to do was just insert him and

mean, he the type,

and he fit right in. He the type of dude, you tell your homies, we finna go to open gym, and you like, yeah, I'm gonna bring my homie with me. He show up, all he got is his shoes and his clothes that he hooping in, and he gonna go straight home afterwards. He not finna kick it, he wanna go home, he just wanna hoop and go home.

That guy that was playing like knockout in 21 until the sun went down

He was gonna hoop and go on.

Speaker 2 (16:46.318)
So I think that would be again, that scenario. Like again, not look at it now because like he's not that kind of like he doesn't seem like a very vocal guy, but he does just want to like play. So that's what I'm saying. Like now we look back at it in retrospect. That was like the perfect fit for him. And again, like as soon as that happens to like it's also. It's also a bigger even comment to him, because as soon as he went, like everyone was just like, well, there go the next three. Like it's not even going to be fun. I what? Yes, I mean, they did almost lose to Houston. Yeah.

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:12.705)
That was a good se-

If Chris Paul didn't get hurt and James Harden didn't shoot what, one for twenty seven?

The whole team was it they went what to one for 43 or two something like that bad They have the most consider most consecutive misses three-point misses in the playoffs ever or something like that was horrible Oh, that was a great That was the best team that they had around James Harden like that if you were gonna surround James Harden with a team because remember they started try to do it with Dwight and obviously Clint was the company you know that they that was that was how you form a team around him

And that team was solid too.

Speaker 2 (17:44.91)
I've never even had like Pat Bev still be looking at people's ear like.

Trevor Reza on the wing, like they had a squad. PJ Tucker hit corner three. had a really, really good squad,

Yeah, J Tucker was on that team

Speaker 2 (17:58.303)
Was a fun team and again they should have gone that year, but again is what it is But anyways like speaking of modern day I could see again. I agree with you. I don't see think Hattie's like all right pack your bags You want to the big north?

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:11.384)
mean, if he do, he do. just, I need to see it. That's my thing. I wouldn't, if he does do it, like, I'm not going to be like, shit, why is he doing that? I'm just saying he doesn't strike me as that type of person.

skeptical seeing him go to the Sun so I was like yeah I saw it I was like all right like they got like Devin Booker and this and that and obviously but he's also one of those guys that has always I mean with the exception of going to Brooklyn but it's still the little brother to the Knicks he's always played in like mid-market teams like Golden State's a big I mean it's a lot of money because of the

came out you

Speaker 1 (18:44.598)
It's not a big market. That's what I was kind of saying about Miami. It's like, you know, I mean, again, it's not Chicago, New York, Miami or LA, you know, down. Right. It's still, you know, a big bird mark, but it's not those top three markets. You know what mean?

those years.

Speaker 2 (18:59.43)
Like it's again like he's always again even okay. Well, okay see the small market So still like he went there there and then that but not his sons is still They've been singing man. I've heard talks about him going to Miami, but I feel like if Miami wasn't gonna do it for Jimmy Butler Yeah, you know if they weren't gonna do that then

I also don't know what the direction that Miami's trying to go with like obviously they kept hero and keeping bam But like again, those shams was saying after that

I think BAM's, he's just been on I was watching some from the, not this past Summer Games, but the 2020, right? Yeah, 2020. They're like, he's arguably the most talented guy on the team. Like he's like a point guard in a 7-1 body. Like they're like, he has handles, like he can do almost anything.

I'm like, he saw it. I would like Bama.

Speaker 1 (19:36.437)
Yeah, whenever they say

Speaker 1 (19:45.006)
Somebody was just talking about them playing him one on one. Remember it was Michael B. It was somebody that was saying like, don't understand, like he's so underrated.

First time he's just a big man. That's what he does. But if you write it to like it's just he's for how that team was constructed That's just what they need and they had Sony feel like Gabe Vincent like all those dudes out there. They could shoot right exactly What's number 55 is named the guy that looks? Yeah, like him and the hero like all those do so they don't really need him to do that They don't know the stretch but and Jimmy obviously did all the dirty work and right the guy but yeah now that it's just him and hero and I do like the rookie they got I forget his name. He's got like Hispanic last name

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:23.414)
I mean, guess he's good and they got Khalil where from he was started organ and with Indiana big man center. Yeah, he's gonna be good

Yeah, I saw him over a one to a game for like a half

Speaker 2 (20:36.578)
Yeah, and that's what Pratt really does. He drafts well. He finds these guys. He always kind of, I don't say diamond in the rough. I Hero went to UNC and like Baymonds and Kentucky, but...

Or he's gonna do Kentucky to hero with Kentucky. So the Kentucky right hello where with the Indiana, you know ended up in Indiana like it yeah

Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (20:52.968)
But he's good. I mean, that's what they do. They're good telling people and Yeah, that's what Pat Riley does. You understand how long he sticks around for,

CLA yeah,

That's true. He's been talking about he could be at the end of it. Yeah, which is valid.

Or just get into like strictly ownership and not being like

not being involved and maybe promoting their exposure to that and then them hiring a new coach potentially.

Speaker 2 (21:13.166)
I think so Bo wants one more. I I think he did I can win without Ronan

Definitely want to But I'm saying I think they might coincide with Pat once he's done. I think they're going to push it together and then he's going to bring exposure up, think.

Yeah, I I'd love to see him come to the Knicks, but he's not leaving Miami.

Dude, y'all have tried to interview so many coaches. It's bad. And everyone is saying no. But the funny part about it is somebody tweeted today, they said, hey, at New York Dicks, how about you try interviewing somebody that isn't currently under contract with somebody else and maybe you'll get it.

That's like telling your prom date like hey like this is gonna work and then go into like four other kids who have hot girls be like hey you want to go to prom? Like no asshole like I got a fucking date. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (21:53.614)
All those comparisons have been killing me. They said, imagine that your, imagine your wife is like openly flirting or something with someone in public for two weeks and then y'all are about to like adopt a kid. I'm crazy like that. said, bro, this shit is getting out of hand.

Like no, I'm going with

Speaker 2 (22:17.55)
They're just I don't know what they're thinking and like I was thinking about it and I was watching something the other day and Someone brought up a good point when they were like because you know James Dolan is He did like it was he's investor in this year like that's the thing so they're kind of notice how like the timelines like the last couple years the Knicks have been a functioning organization when he's been preoccupied. Yeah now he's back

Yeah, because they were talking about that came from like that came from the tip of the thing came from him He definitely said fuck this fire

like the shiny things. He wants the Amari Stata matter. He the melos. Like he wants the Jason Kidd. loved what Jeremy was like.

He loved what Jeremy Lin was doing.

Insanity was cool for about two weeks That is Jeremy Lin Yeah, was this kid that went to Harvard obviously played basketball there I don't know. Is he undrafted? She was undrafted he came to the Knicks when they had Carmelo Mari like they had some decent team They were like little 500 they went to the like second round I think was Raymond felt out

Speaker 1 (22:58.243)
That's what everybody says. You don't remember Linsanity though?

Speaker 1 (23:18.444)
point guard get hurt?

Just finished saying wasn't it Felton cuz I got hurt It was one of the I think it was Felton and Felton got hurt and then he Jeremy Lin came in and

It had like one of the best. 10 day, two week run. Yeah, he was hitting game winners in the garden like. Beat the Lakers, I think, in the Stable Center, like he had this crazy run. This is when Carmelo was still on the team and everyone was trying to create this narrative and Smello was like, dude, I don't hate the guy like he's just getting more touches and I just want to know what's going on. Like he was like, yeah, we're winning games like I'm not that dude that's going to pissed off for us losing us. yeah.

Drop in third.

Speaker 1 (23:57.688)
We built like what he's got a reaction are we going? Yeah, gonna be his team. What are we doing? Yeah?

So then he just kind of, spit it out.

He t-t-t-t-t

He took it, remember, because he went to Houston. His stock was really was on the Lakers for a little bit. Oh, so he was on the Lakers.

like a boiler room stock. He was really hot and he was

Speaker 2 (24:16.279)
I want to say flash in the pan, but he kind of was and then his stock was so high that he wanted money from the Knicks and then other teams just money and the Rockets throw like a like a 70 million dollar it was something

was like four years, 72 or something like that.

An NBA terms doesn't sound like a lot for someone that was couchsurfing off like teammates.

He literally, yeah, living with his, remember he was living on his French college. Yeah, he graduated, but he was just chasing his hoop dream. Like he wasn't, you know what mean? He wasn't.

away from Harvard.

Speaker 3 (24:42.904)
Going to Harvard degree to fall

Landry Fields. He went to Harvard too, I think.

Yes, I think it was Landry. But the Stanford. But they, yeah, the Stanford Harvard thing, they kind of connect.

Yeah. So he was living with him at the time that I he was living with his brother and his wife like he was bouncing around until he got his contract. Yeah. Well, believe in the. that's why.

He was in the G League for a little bit wasn't

Speaker 1 (25:05.886)
Stupid but cuz he yeah, I mean he graduated and everything but he was again He was trying to chase his dream and when you in the deal, you know the g-league, you're not making shit at all You actually might as well go work at Walmart

Unless you're brawny or Mack.

Well, that's bad. You know, but like legitimately, like if you want those dudes with no name and you might as well go work at Walmart.

Yeah, he had this crazy, I mean, which is so, when you think about it.

What's a marketing wet dream?

Speaker 2 (25:31.548)
the media ate him up. The Post and the Times loved him.

Did you ever hear the Kobe story? So, Teague told the story. Jeff Teague was telling the story about how he almost got traded to the Lakers. They was interested in Kobe. It got Kobe involved. was like, yeah. And Jeff said Kobe was either at a game...

Love you.

Speaker 1 (25:53.462)
With Jeremy Lin, he pointed Jeremy and he said, you left me with this shit T. Cause Jeff T said he didn't want to go cause it was too much pressure and he was like, I'm not gonna be the reason, the person that they blame if we not winning this shit, which is valid. Some guys is just not, it's not for them. And so he said, Kobe what up to over there at the game? He's like, you left me with this shit T, you left me with this shit. Talking about Jeremy Lin and pointed right, he said he pointed right at him. He was standing right by him and he's like, you left me with this shit? Bro.

It's like.

Speaker 2 (26:19.796)
Can I sit next to you on the bus? Fuck no.

Fuck out

You remember the other story Lou Will told when they was playing terrible against like Portland or somebody and they was wearing his shoes and Kobe sitting there like, no, all that shit off. Y'all not wearing my shoes playing like take that shit off.

Jeff Teague might be the funniest person in the NBA media right now.

Is hilarious, but they are their party go down around

Speaker 2 (26:42.222)
was on the Bucks when they won and they were like down 0-2 and he was like, yo, I'm packing up. He packed up his apartment, they ended up winning the next four games and he was like, what the fuck?

I'm back

Speaker 1 (26:49.582)
He said, he said when Kyrie got hurt, said, he said everybody looked at each other like, oh, oh shit. He said, said, I'm gonna have to go start taking some shit out of my truck. He said, I might have to grab some extra clothes. be here living. He said he was ready. He was living, packed his truck and was ready to go home. No, he was ready to go.

said he was pissed too, he's like, how?

Speaker 3 (27:05.806)
He hasn't been at Forkley, did he?

No, he because, I think it was PJ Tucker, one of the guys that and said, we live in the same building. And he was like, man, he's like, better unpack.

It was PJ Tucker, remember? Because remember PJ was talking about how Jeff wouldn't let him come to his apartment? Because he was like, I'm living in my half a bedroom apartment in Milwaukee.

All his boxers.

Speaker 2 (27:27.086)
How should either the Bucks prayed was like, dude, he's

He went home after the game and being in them with people with his podcast was like, he pulled up the same night and hopped on 2K. They was like, what are you doing at home? Like you're supposed to be at the parade. You're supposed to be celebrating. said, bro, we ain't do nothing, which they didn't because this is Yannis, bro. Yannis wasn't gonna do shit, but it was crazy.

He's like, dude, it was the weakest fucking celebration ever. He's like, we had like a bottle of champagne locker and he's like, I'm going home.

It's like having a going to a birthday with the guys now sober and like we got soda and Cheetos. You're awesome. Yeah

Exactly. too. But anyways, about the Jeremy Lin thing. So he ended up going to Houston and he bounced around. He went to LA for a minute, but he never like was quite the same when he was in New York. And then he ended up getting a ring with the Raptors, I believe, just from sitting on the bench.

Speaker 3 (28:12.982)
Now he's just collecting.

mean he's I 70 millions of seven or whatever the contract was but it was something pretty good Yeah, I mean he he did good for himself just for having a great two weeks two three weeks There's a doc. There's a 30 for 30 on a call lint Saturday or something like that

We're gonna watch that when we get back. I fucking love 30s.

It's good, but again, he just had game winners and step backs and he was just playing out of his mind.

So he just he just kind of had like right place right time. Everything was.

Speaker 2 (28:41.878)
I think it was a perfect system. I think the right person was out and they let him handle the ball where they But the other things he went like you under the Rockets with Hardin and Dwight Howard then he went to the Lakers with Kobe so like he wasn't he didn't they didn't him to control the ball So it just wasn't his thing. Yeah, right. Yeah, I mean, like I said, I'm not sorry broken record, but I mean

He pulled a robo.

Speaker 3 (29:02.574)
I just you got 70 mil just capitalize you

Average average 23 for three weeks and

That's a good and cashed yeah

You can say like, yeah, dude, I was batting 750.

Yeah, he passed on. I think he had a plan for like five or six teams.

Speaker 3 (29:16.619)
Whatever, still getting paid.

Yeah

Nah, he doing his thing.

So, we got all, there was a lot going on.

yeah, no, we definitely hit a lot there.

Speaker 3 (29:28.654)
So what what was going on and I messaged about this last night right with the new college the portal

I mean, I mean, so...

Because I was just looking because the most highest traffic that's being searched on YouTube right now and yet

I mean, this is like in the general thing. It's just air. mean just Well right now there's football the window the windows closed for football, but I mean you got the I mean college baseball portal right now I mean, there's nothing really a portal wise to talk about other than like They had that house but I had the house settlement which is the schools have a certain allotment now of money to spend

That's a very, it's a very high.

Speaker 3 (30:00.11)
Didn't they just come up with something that

Speaker 3 (30:10.168)
So wasn't there something that's going on where basically from what I heard it was like college football is now becoming pro football when it just

Well, that's what I'm saying. Like they actually kind of added a salary cap and you have a certain amount of general. They got the teams a bit. Yeah, teams have been doing general managers that kind of they just adopted more pro sort of thing, which is good, especially for the players, because, you know, a lot of it is just the scheduling in terms of how much you're actually working out and practicing and stuff. Right. They're trying to align it to fit more the pro schedule, because like with spring practice and then you have.

manager now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:45.686)
a little bit of a break and then you have summer workouts and you have a little bit of break. Then you come back to school and then you have fall camp. Like with the NFL, all this stuff starts to flow all at once. Remember like you got the rookie stuff that starts and then you got OTAs then you have like all that stuff literally just flows all at once. So they're trying to cut out all the little like not breaks per se, but just trying to make it flow a little bit better than what it is. Essentially. Well, no, you're going to still get breaks, but I'm saying like the

So just basically turning into a machine. Don't you need break?

Speaker 2 (31:14.99)
It's like keep everybody fresh.

Yeah, they're trying to condense some, like you're not even gonna, like, okay, you're not gonna get as big a break in between certain things, but also when certain things are going on, you're not gonna have to practice.

So it's just like having year-round school. No, remember like, no, but that's the way, remember like kids would do like year-round. Yeah, so you're not over.

Well known.

Speaker 2 (31:34.818)
My cousins did it.

Can't you help didn't people do that to graduate early?

You could but like schools like it started out west cuz mom mom's side of the family They move up to Vegas and my cousins would go to school year-round and they'd get like Little increments of like three weeks for whatever the case may be and obviously the regular holidays and stuff But they'd like go to school through the summer then like and then they'd have time off, but yeah you graduate quicker

I mean, it's not so bad. I I wish. I like to have a summer break, but it makes sense like.

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:01.331)
Well, no, I mean...

Just that. Because those breaks did feel long too, like when you'd go through Christmas, then that was that, and then the next one was still long. I'd rather just have it broken up.

is.

Yeah, no, because it was nice. But we went to high school because we had two spring breaks. So that's why we had we had trimesters, not semesters. So yeah, because we would go our our winter, our fall exams would have. Yeah. So we would have exams for Thanksgiving. We didn't have to have before Christmas. And then we would have our spring break. And then the heritage was going on and they needed our parking lot. So we got that whole week off of Easter break. Yeah. They call it.

That's right.

Speaker 3 (32:42.446)
It was awesome.

That's actually done.

days every Friday man because our our football where our football field was it was we lived in a community called sea pines and it was all residential around the field in the school so we couldn't have night games because the residents were complaining about the lights on Friday night so we'd have to start the games at like four games would be done by like six seven

It was amazing.

Speaker 3 (33:02.23)
In our, no, yeah, in our-

Yeah.

If we had to travel the divisions, we have to have go up to Charleston, Regiland. So you needed time travel time. So.

Half days every Friday, man. even even football season was over. Yeah. Yeah

Awesome.

Speaker 1 (33:19.31)
But I think also another thing with the portal football especially, they're trying to also, so with that condensing, they're trying to do one portal window versus two. So right now they do one in the fall, like one in the winter after the season, and then they do one in the spring. So they're trying to just condense it to one in the spring after the season, after like in January when the season concludes.

Okay, I got you. So yeah, just I see what you mean.

Yeah, but there's just a lot of condensing and stuff going on the poor but the portal in general is always a hot topic just because you have so many you just have so much going on so many names are in there like you know it's just one of those things is just it's just it's a lot that goes into it and goes on but Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely Moving in a direction. I wouldn't say it necessarily if it's right or wrong, but

I got a question because you're the sports guys now. I don't know not saying you guys are experts on the WNBA Some reason on my Instagram feed all these memes and videos about Angel Reese Just cuz she just misses so this is what everything yeah, so what?

I mean, I do.

Speaker 2 (34:19.855)
Yeah

Speaker 2 (34:24.141)
I'll give you Cliffs Notes essentially of her.

Yeah.

I think she went to Maryland and transferred to LSU, but I could be wrong.

That was that was Andrew Reed. Oh, oh, I'm Andrew. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Brother believe play a man. Yeah, anyways, she transferred LSU and this was her senior year and Caitlin Clark's junior year and That was like when Caitlin Clark really became like the price of women's in college basketball and stuff They met in the finals and I'm sorry I'm a backtrack in the final four Caitlin Clark did this thing like you can't see me. Yeah, right That was talker, but she apparently was doing it like to her trainer like was an inside joke so people people thought that she was like

Speaker 2 (35:06.584)
Celebrating flexing the team go to the finals and say finals and they play LSU and Andresa's team and they're the two biggest names because she had a big year to injury Yeah, and then LSU beat them and like with the seconds winding down she did this to Caitlin Clark like mocking her and then she started pointing to her finger like she's gonna ring and stuff like that

SNL even. Reese? No, not Reese, Kayla Clark.

Speaker 1 (35:29.646)
She was said Angel Rea said she was doing it because of Caitlin doing it to South Carolina She said like it was an SEC thing cuz they're like unless you went to South Carolina Then I don't think I mean

That's where like the thing started.

I don't

The way I think they actually I don't think they actually give.

We're trying to make them like the women's bird in Magic. They both played the finals, one won, one lost. They both went, yeah, black and white, but they're two totally different types of players.

Speaker 1 (35:50.359)
Rivalry.

Speaker 1 (35:56.737)
Exactly.

But so, but like everything that I've seen, this is again, don't know. Angel doesn't seem, okay, sorry.

I'm going to sorry. So and then last year because they both got drafted in the same. Yeah. Yeah. Drafted together. Kim Clark, obviously number one. I've got where Angel Reese got drafted. She went to the Chicago Sky. I think so, too. But well, I mean, she was one of top players.

Bye.

Did you guys know that it's impressive?

Speaker 1 (36:19.954)
It's crazy because their high school recruiting class they were all top five. yeah, so it was her Angel Reese, Camila Cardoso and They had one more girl that was all literally all four of them hit that's how Cameron Brink the top four all of them hit in college It was crazy. Okay, all of them hit it was nuts

And I think Paige is going to be a too. Paige. I knew about her before she went to you. Yeah. Say this whole thing on her and sports center. Yes.

And then remember that one guy that tweeted this is the best sixth grade point guard No, literally he said that when she was a sixth grade took a picture of her said this is the best sixth grade women's point guard I've ever seen in my life

She tore her ACL, I think her sophomore year. And then she came back, but and they won last year, but she's going to be solid, too. But anyway, so when Caitlin Clark was getting all this media coverage and all the limelight was on her last year, Angel Reese did this. I don't know if it was post game or like before practice after practice, but she said, I want everybody to know there's a reason that everyone's talking about W or talking about women's basketball. It's not just because one person's causing me to. And everyone was like, OK, like kind of. Yes or no? Like.

Yes, like you're a part of like the new the new age and stuff, but you're not Caitlin Clark. If you watch their games, Angel Reese is like double dribbling down the course. think she's got the lowest field goal percentage in the league right now. It's really hard. She's on a tight, but she's also in a bad situation like the Chicago team is not.

Speaker 1 (37:41.678)
It wasn't the team that won the championship.

They're they're not developing right from what I've seen but at the same time I mean percentage when you're a post player is not to be like

No, okay.

And we know, we know Kevin Clark is the main draw, you know what mean? Like it's just one of those things.

She's the new great like her and Paige are doing stuff that I've only seen like like I'm not even more in Taurasi were doing that like they're doing step box step backs and everything.

Speaker 1 (38:04.226)
I mean,

Say that it's like going to SNL the 90s saying that you're going to go see Darryl Hammond and Ferrell.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, again, she is. She's at the same time, she's the first person to have 500 points and 500 rebounds are the fastest to it. believe she's good, she's not. It's just that she was paired with her. They played together in the college championship. Same draft. A little bit of the race thing, too, like it's black and white. Yeah. They beat a little bit like Caitlin Clark gave her. It wasn't a bad foul. It should have been.

You kind of keep it like this, yeah.

Stay away from

Speaker 1 (38:32.854)
And that was a regular ass

She went for the ball, she gave her, she just went for it to give her a foul. It's like you stop the person from getting a layup so they go shoot two free throws. She kind of flung herself a little bit.

That was a regular ass foul. I wouldn't say it was a hard foul. It was a regular ass foul.

think behind the curtains they're probably like cool with each other like let's keep this going

You're making too much money off of it. I mean, there was a lot of... A lot of beats that people think was really beats was played a lot behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (38:52.366)
Hey, Fabe, going on?

Just be like, hey,

Speaker 2 (39:01.976)
But she I don't I think she's things race is fine like whatever the only thing and again so over the summer she said some stuff that's just like hard to like you want a root for if she just says stuff or she's like yeah, and minus she's only one year in the league And she said if we don't we want to get paid what we're do we're gonna sit out And I say he has never made a profit

It was like, dude, you got to give

Speaker 3 (39:20.288)
dude, don't.

It's one of those things, remember, because I mean, the NBA has had to subsidize them for a little. I mean, it's getting better, yeah, they're not at a point now where she can be saying stuff like that, which again, I still continue to watch and support. So as long as we keep doing that, it'll get better. But yeah, just as of right now where things stand, she can't say shit like that.

And they're like, well, we want to.

Speaker 2 (39:40.856)
She's just unnecessarily putting a bull- or putting a bullseye on her back.

It's like, dude, you're the rookie. You're not, you don't have any right.

That's what I'm well not even that but it's not like she again like if you're gonna say that kind of stuff and you come in and have this kind of Season like it's just she's not making herself. She's making it easy for the media just to go after it's not fair I mean she's 22 like I get it 23 But at same time you kind of got to know what you signed up for like you're like you're on the biggest stage playing for national championship you won one You beat the best player arguably or maybe will be ever and yeah, so she's got that like she can say that like I you know she has beat her but now she's just

Okay, you did. So what's next?

And I get where she would have a chip on her shoulder to ability because she wasn't getting as much as like they'd be like, Oh, Caitlin didn't have a good game. That's why they're this and that. She's like, No, like we beat them like she played great in the game. But at same time, it's just she's not getting as much. Yeah. And then it's easy to say, Oh, well, you know, it's the race name. She's white. I'm like, I don't know about.

Speaker 3 (40:27.672)
consistently.

Speaker 1 (40:33.067)
Nah, because I think I used-

some of which everybody at my other job loves cable.

I there's I think there's less and I could be wrong. I'd be interested about the stat. I wonder what the percentage is compared to white athletes in the NBA to the WNBA. I feel like it's probably more in the NBA.

Yeah, for sure. Thinking about it.

Like thinking about it, especially over the past like five, seven years of the hell like all the euros.

Speaker 1 (40:58.392)
Yeah, I was just gonna say for sure more white people in the NBA than in the W for

As soon as I was saying that I was thinking like I feel like the W is way more black

Cause like I know back in like obviously, cause I think the WNBA is at a point where the NBA was in like the eight, like the eighties, nineties, early 2000, like where you, like where you was, you had to be really, really cold. You had to be really, really cold. Like obviously like there was a lot of dudes that was the Bill Winnington's and stuff like that. And then Luke Long, cause that was on the Bulls, like when Jordan, like, but like,

Cook, cook,

Like the cool coaches, the Jason Williams, like those types, bro. You had to be nice to get to the league back then as you wasn't white. You had to be nice, You had to be Steve now. You had to be nice, bro. Now I think the W is at that point right now where it is a lot more black people. as like more and white people come or more white girls come into it, it's like because I came a ring cold. You know, obviously Paige Becker is Caitlin, like, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:39.138)
Hey, just watch.

Make baby what I tell you.

Speaker 1 (42:00.13)
You obviously had Tarasi and Sue Burton in the start, the beginning, but before, remember, was all Lisa Leslie and Sheryl Swoop, Tina Charles, all of them. And so now it's like, you're getting up there, you're getting a little more sort of representation.

It's something to be interesting moving forward I it's definitely an exciting time for the WMBA like they have all these and then What's her name the girl that from USC that just hurt her knee? She's coming. She's gonna be a problem for everybody's MBA or the WMBA is gonna be really

You just like a dude.

It just took the patience for that evolution to catch up.

Because not like not they always had stars. I feel like they're having got or having women now that Can take it like at the of the game like you can watch them do ISO and stuff like that where a lot of the time? Yeah WMBA was always like, you know, we're gonna run a scheme in this

Speaker 1 (42:47.79)
Okay, like you getting you getting away from that more so now again Yeah, get more athletic and a more excitement and now they're also capitalizing on with a lot of people like you just like their looks and stuff like you know showing up pregame wardrobe like all

Yes, Steph Curry's like God needs or something. Yeah, I've got her name Kevin Duran was like look checking her out. Mm-hmm. Yeah, she's a good-looking girl. Um Yeah, it's gonna be very interesting to see how they How it moves along but again, they have the storylines but and it would only be so much better Angel Reese again, I think she's just having a slump I think she's just getting in way too much but like the public does like her I little girls she's got her own shoe. She's on the she's on the Reese's cereal thing like she's

She's got endorsements,

Podcasts. She's got successful podcast.

That's right.

Speaker 3 (43:36.523)
modeling

Yeah, she's got endorsements.

Speaker 3 (43:41.72)
So the racist thing, that's beautiful. That's like a match made in heaven.

Yes.

Exactly, but then people are like clowning and stuff cuz they're like people are taking the cereal and like missing the bowl They're like, oh like recently. Yeah Yeah, so people are like being a little harsh but at the same time like again, I think she'll be fine I think she just said some stuff that kind of just dug her in a little bit of a hole. Yeah

38 %

Speaker 1 (44:03.63)
People have it happens to people all the time. That's also so what tonight we got game for Edmonton, Florida Yeah, NHL got the cup Well, yeah, I was gonna say we got the cup because actually tonight obviously tomorrow game for the finals But tonight Stanley Cup Edmonton at Florida Florida did go up to one after winning on Tuesday night. So we'll see if Edmonton can tie the series back up still a home game and

yeah, was.

Speaker 3 (44:29.452)
Like you guys were saying before the show, don't want like two Southern team. We don't want, we don't want it back to back.

I have a random question about hockey that I'm kind of mad myself that I don't know and I meant to look this up Then I'm hoping you know yeah, so the Rangers just traded Chris Crider. believe his name to the Ducks today mm-hmm Why doesn't the NBA have the same rules NHL where you can do in season or do trades like that in the postseason before the season's over? You know the answer that I'm just curious

And I didn't even, I didn't, I've never thought about that.

Meaning. Why doesn't the NBA have like pass a trade deadline still like again, like I just said, like the Rangers traded guy to the while the Cubs going on where, for example, make a comparison like they're saying that a Kevin Durant trade is probably already done to the Spurs, but they can't announce it until it is draft. So that's why I'm.

So why doesn't the NBA do what?

Speaker 1 (45:18.718)
It might be is it because well when is the when does technically does the league because that has to do with like a lot of times with like a Year, yeah has to start like because it ends in the

It's like the league calendar,

Because I took the NFL's they like March 1st, right? There's like, yeah

Something like that and it might be because in hockey maybe theirs maybe their league years starts While the playoffs are going like it ends while the playoffs are going on and starts at the same time. I never thought about that

So what I'm reading is that it's because of competitive fairness so if a Team's eliminated yeah, right So preventing trades during the finals ensures teams competing for the championship cannot alter their rosters mid-series Which could give unfair advantages or disrupt competitive balance. It also keeps the focus on the games other than off the court transactions contract player restrictions But teams eliminated from playoffs can trade

Speaker 2 (46:13.122)
Well, that's what saying. So like this time of the year, there's only two teams playing.

So anybody so everybody else can trade.

In the NHL, yeah, but I'm saying I wonder why they... No, you can't.

In the NBA. Seems like they're eliminated from the playoffs can begin making trades immediately after their elimination, even while the finals are ongoing. However, teams still in the playoffs must wait.

Okay, I guess that makes sense Because obviously if you're not in the playoffs, okay, might need more health or you theoretically you need more health than the other

Speaker 2 (46:41.358)
does make sense though.

Speaker 2 (46:45.262)
The suns on the spurs weren't or they count the plan Hmm are they counting the plan then because where the suns I don't think the suns made it either the spurs

The suns do not

Well, again, so again, maybe that's why it's done, but obviously it can't go through to the league yet.

No, that's what I'm NHL already announced this trade today. That's what saying. That's what I'm curious about.

I'm guessing maybe they just don't give a fuck. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:09.23)
And it feels like, look, man, we know the headlines we can get.

I'm gonna see if I'm-

We just gonna put this out so y'all know what's going on and we gonna leave it at that like yeah, we not finna

The Rangers already posted an announcement saying thank you

Like we're not finna wait for these motherfuckers to finish we did this already it's good

Speaker 3 (47:23.404)
Yeah, so for the NHL, this says that the post deadline trades are typically made by teams that have already been eliminated from playoffs as they prepare for the upcoming draft. Playoff teams can technically make trades during their playoff run, but any new players acquired would not be able to join the roster for that current postseason. Why the NHL does this? The NHL system is designed just so that the playoff rosters are set, cannot be altered with new eligible players.

Well, I guess that's what I'm saying too. So maybe I shouldn't even compare it to the NBA because the NFL has a trade deadline and so does baseball too. So I guess I should say why is NHL the exception? They have some thing in their league.

Yeah. Because don't they technically have a trade or don't they have a trade in line? I thought so. That's why.

Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:05.87)
I've been following hockey my entire life, so that's why I can't remember the last time I...

Mine is March.

usually.

That's like indices whatever man. I'll look it up later. I'll call my people

I mean, I got nine sources that I just searched. Okay. All right guys. This was solid all the way the fuck around There's about 90 % of it had no idea what the fuck you were talking about. That's why Matt's here to help You know, this is the sports bad guys. We're training up, okay

Speaker 1 (48:33.876)
Exactly.

I'm just saying, I was trying to tell you that's why I said you had to be ready and in position before we started.

Yeah, so well, I appreciate it being part of it, but you know, this is always going to be our baby, Dre. And that's the this is our little three. Was it a three men and the baby? We're doing like a three men and the baby thing. Now I'm to chime in her now. You're the part of it.

I'm just a cuck.

The cock is-

Speaker 2 (48:57.002)
I just sit here and chime in.

that

Doing so good. Oh, yeah

You're doing so good.

Just put your mic closer, okay?

Speaker 2 (49:06.251)
It's really nice lighting.

Yooo

Alright guys, we'll see you next week.

Thank you.