Is Cooper Flagg the SECRET to Mavs Championship Hopes | 6/26/25

Wes Castelhano (00:00.142)
We're rolling guys. What's up? What's up? So we're back with another strike zone end zone podcast with the one and only Trey Ballard. The house is course an official guest, new resident, if you will. Matt Travleone is here as well. I'm your producer, Wes, the guy that's behind the mic. Yeah, we'll figure it out. Word chop it. So a pretty, pretty big week. They'll have a room.

Alright. What's happening? What's happening? What's going on? Yeah.

Trey Ballard (00:10.062)
And then we'll see.

Trey Ballard (00:21.098)
Right, it'll,

Wes Castelhano (00:29.952)
NBA draft. Do I kick off?

I mean for sure. I'm no, I'm just no for sure we can go I mean we got the second round tonight first round obviously Cooper flag going number one I mean that was to be expected which you know a lot of people said they didn't trust Nico to make the right choice there either so but he does what it is. I don't know. Yeah

I mean, he'd be. I don't think he had any choice. mean, he saw that ball come up and he did back hands down.

I mean, come on. You know you've worked any better.

Or uninitiated. do you guys talk?

Matt Travaglione (01:01.067)
But that's when it brings all the.

That's it uninitiated. Yeah.

So you're just, you're just saying like.

Cooper flag. Yeah, he got drafted number one to the mavs.

And okay, so what's the backflip about? That's what I'm like.

Matt Travaglione (01:12.899)
they went to the Mavs the general manager of the Mavs is a guy that traded Luca Mitzvah

Nico, yeah.

So they got their stuff here and that but that's kind of where everyone or not everyone but some people say there's a conspiracy and everything with NBA and Slay.

which is like, It is what it is anyway.

It shock me if there was, but at the same time, I'm not gonna read into it.

Trey Ballard (01:31.736)
But look, it's right, it's too much going on for that.

I don't think they're gonna contend next year. No, it depends on how often Harry comes back.

I'm gonna say and he's not I mean toward and Martha so is expected Right. Yeah

Probably after the dollar store. Cause it wasn't it was the same knee I believe. that he messed up a couple years ago.

Matt Travaglione (01:53.26)
snapped his kneecap in the finals.

They'll do. Yeah, because he reclassed up. Yeah. So I mean, mean, Yeah, but I mean, they got I mean, they got a great front court. I mean, keeping Gaffer lively, A.D. and then you want to have Coupe be the Swiss Army. The three. Yeah, no, he is. He the Swiss Army, no point forward. Why not get in the right? So he's got. Yeah, mean, he's fighting. Yeah. No, his motor defense is on fair right now. So sure. Yeah. Look, it's going to be nice to see for the league, man, because I feel like a lot of people just.

I make some more moves, but...

Trey Ballard (02:30.09)
They complain a lot about different things about the league, which is not perfect. But I just feel like is it really headed in the right direction with the move some of these teams are making on who they're driving? Yeah, I mean.

I I was kind of surprised because I was really high on Ace Bailey. I'm surprised he fell up a jazz. I know it's not really a hot take, but and then like some people say like, oh, well, like some teams didn't need guards. Every team that before him took a guard. Yeah. Oh, no, I think he's going to be.

But he did to I mean I do I mean his his his agent is Shreve Cooper's dad who came out. Yeah, that's his dad and so he I mean hit the way the people around him who he's getting guided by I can honestly believe that they probably told some things not to draft him just because He didn't feel like cuz here I mean he can really go turn up at Utah to be honest with you Yes, sure like and I really think it's good for him. It's almost like it's almost like whenever the government say NBA on board you talk

Even though he still end up getting in trouble for stuff he did before that, sometimes you need to be isolated from your hometown. It's from people, like from being close to your home. know what mean? So he wanted to stay on the East Coast originally and that wasn't going to work, bro. You need to be focused on who.

sure NBA Young would have up Flood May with his

Trey Ballard (03:36.814)
all he did is already teaching him how to box. So he's gonna have the aggression of that young boy and also the aggression of Floyd plus the boxing knowledge. So yeah, man.

and jeans. All right, but yeah, think ace is going to be solid. And then again, there's been some trades. I saw some stuff about the Celtics still trying to move possibly Jalen Brown, possibly to Sacramento for Sabonis, which would be crazy. Yeah. But they would have to give up, I think, three or four number ones plus some good amount of rotation players. So it'd be a haul for Jalen Brown. yeah, I actually kind of. If it's Jalen Brown, like a few first round picks, but I wouldn't

What is some

Matt Travaglione (04:18.144)
I mean, Cibones

That's what saying, this sound like some shit they put in the ESPN trade machine.

Like now, I mean, ever since they got rid of Darren Fox, like, who knows what Sacramento's doing, because that guy's son-in-law or whoever the fuck is running his team, it's super weird of a son-in-law.

I have much of direction. No.

I don't know what they're doing over there. Yeah, there's a lot of interesting stuff going on for sure. mean, obviously, we talk about Desmond Day last time?

Trey Ballard (04:35.47)
No clue.

Trey Ballard (04:41.228)
Yeah, we already talked about Bayon. Come on. Yeah, we talked about Bayon. mean, a lot of league is, I mean, there's obviously still gonna be a lot of moving parts and whatnot before the season starts in terms of trades. Because obviously, like, you you still got to monitor Yannis. I think he's gonna stay, but still got to monitor Yannis. I mean, you just never know what's gonna go down. he declined that, which is...

That's right, I

Trey Ballard (05:10.604)
Hey, I'm be honest, that seems like to me. Very ballsy and I think that might be him saying he was requesting to trade without formally requesting to trade. Because at this point now we might as well trade. You know what saying?

I mean his stocks not gonna make less he has a crazy next year, but and you

I don't do that with Bron and Luca dominating the ball and I because I don't see I still don't see Bron Coming up off the ball that much more just for Austin Reeves. I feel like he likes Austin Reeves I feel like everyone you know love Austin Reeves But I don't see LeBron coming up off the ball that much more for him, especially if we're trying to bring in another big

You know, it's also trying to get a double neck more out or more time and stuff. Yeah, like you kind of

Especially to prove himself before he because he could potentially still be a trade piece That's why I'm saying so he as he still is probably a trade

Matt Travaglione (05:50.764)
or still be pissed off with the treasure.

Matt Travaglione (05:55.214)
That's gotta be one of those comfortable things too. Pyrite! Just kidding, come back.

But the Morgan twin had to sit him down and be like, look, I understand totally having been moved multiple times in my career, but you got to be a professional and show your next team that you are going to be a professional and be coming to work and fit in and try to continue to further your career.

The Morris ones actually do a pretty good job commentating. I see sometimes in ASPN, they actually do a pretty good job.

yeah sometimes there's this, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna missing a lot, I'll stop watching you. Do you see, know.

But do you see or Kendrick Perkins said before the pregame against seven? says whoever wins this game is going to be there. He's like, believe we'll win the NBA championship. Looked at him like, are you like what?

Trey Ballard (06:31.758)
I did not

I turned the pregame on. I turned the pregame on probably 20 minutes left. I can't watch ESPN. That's tough. I can't do it. like it. Why can't you watch it? Because they just don't like they don't. Yeah, it's not sport. It's not driven by sports like it used to be. they're so, but it's just looking for content. they're trying to get it.

That's why I was pissed that Around the Horn's gone. I loved Around the Horn in PTI. It was like my getting my hands on the school. Like damn, I to do sports, watch that, 5 o'clock, 5.30, Sports Center was 6, that was like...

Mike, that was- yes, there you-

Wes Castelhano (07:11.182)
Or is that a trick from where you called in 30 Rocks Sports Chef?

Yeah. And it feels like that might be like a nostalgia thing because you describe the same experience I had. Yeah. But I also generally think that it was driven by the sports that were like it was driven by what was going on in the sports world versus it trying to reach for constant.

I original they were original debate show actually and then I think yes panel like you guys got to come to bristle the Sun they're like not worth standing these like this is our show

We do this you are asking us to go. Yeah, we're not moving. They've all stayed there. I love

They're so funny man. Yeah, poor has the fun. I mean, we'll buy notice stuff and I like that. We'll bonds got a little more outspoken Yeah, recently especially like with LeBron to talk you just like With that like he's obviously all for the players. Yeah, I don't know one NBA player that's ever been like Michael Lohbond. Yeah, I think he's one of those guys But I like he's getting more outspoken the next year is gonna be so much fun because The TNT boys are coming over. Yeah, and they're getting like the same from what I've heard my cat or

Trey Ballard (07:57.486)
He's got a great relationship with the players. Yeah.

Trey Ballard (08:07.796)
the same leeway. I have macrophyse, I've had macphesies. Yeah, you got the same leeway. You got to keep that show out

the banner but it's still their deal so can still, Charlson's gonna make fun of Big Chicks and San Antonio and...

Exactly. Do all that. Cause you can't let them lose that. then Ernie being Ernie, you know what mean? I don't think Ernie's going. No, Ernie's not going. You're right. It is. But I thought they was written, are they not bringing in somebody else to host for him?

I think it's Kenny Charles.

Matt Travaglione (08:31.032)
I'm not sure how they're gonna do it all, like, I would love to see Kendrick and Kendrick Perkins and Chuck in the same thing, cause they always go back and forth.

somebody like.

Bring Max back, dude. I love Max.

Man, is in boxing again. He should be. No, I'm saying, but he's like, they got him doing some shit with the Canelo and Crawford fight, which.

As he should, they should have let him stay in that. He's the one that he wanted him gone. Because he didn't agree with his points enough and he was like, he even openly said it too, he was like, we had too many opposing opinions. Point of a debate.

Trey Ballard (08:54.668)
I know, Steve. I know,

Trey Ballard (09:04.502)
Which is not the show. I'm about to say that was what happened with him and skip the whole time. Yeah.

Skip's just going off the rails. yeah, had it. senile now. He had it. He's like, he won't come on my show, he's scared. They're like, no, they got better shit. Who wants to hang out with Skip Bayless and talk about broccoli and rice and chicken, bro? Like, get the fuck out of here.

Yeah, they got better shit to do to talk. No. Sick talk.

Trey Ballard (09:23.032)
What? Broccoli and rice and shi-

He tries to tell people about his dying stuff and they're like, we don't care man, are you gonna die soon?

Yeah, like what's going on with you man? Like yeah, I hate

You ever seen like, I see his Instagram things pop up and he always has these weird poses with the Jordans on. Yes, right. It's the weirdest thing. You got to find that and post that. It's so funny. Yeah, he's got his little, their drip bae list or whatever. He's such an idiot. It's like him and Wayne. Apparently him and Lil Wayne are buddies. Like, I think they,

You don't

Trey Ballard (09:41.71)
You gotta change, man. Skip.

Wait, he calls it drip bail? He says- This fucking guy-

Yeah, Wayne is his favorite rapper, he said. Yeah, he's. And he would go on Undisputed. remember, he also wrote the theme, the song for the intro song for Undisputed.

thing

And Lil Wayne used to come on. First take a lot and-

Matt Travaglione (10:07.214)
was gonna say, because Wale did the first take one.

but the other one was Lil Wayne on Undisputed.

But yeah, so apparently they're buddies and he was he's always like my good friend little Wayne and this and that so he always wears Jordans basically like what Trey has on now, but he wears like little skinny jeans and like a tight shirt with his

Yeah, he's, I'm trying, he's always, his,

He's got and he has like this weird like this is weird like blue steel pose. He looks like an idiot. It's so bad, but it's funny. It's really really

Trey Ballard (10:33.504)
It's hilarious, this is so cringy too, bro.

This is bad

Yeah, really awkward. And you know, his wife's like, babe, you look fantastic.

Yeah, money please.

I forgot. She's got that 1900s name.

Trey Ballard (10:44.748)
Ernestine, right? Man, what? That's like one of the oldest names I've ever heard in my life. The God got to bro, that's crazy. That is absolutely insane. I mean, bro, I'm just would say I just was kind of just moving around ESPN and I was hovering over the MLB standings and whatnot. Just trying to think about the fights this week. I was going to do I was I got that tab pulled up to that weekend looking at both. can even start.

The earnest insurance are on butter.

Matt Travaglione (10:57.73)
Hmm. So what else we got?

Matt Travaglione (11:13.09)
off isn't stupid Jake fighting this weekend or is that next?

Bro, is that this weekend? I feel like it is too. Cause you know they got a live golf tournament in Carrollton. I did not know they was doing it there. They had one last year too. And they do it at one of the courses in Carrollton, which I did not realize. it's a, I mean, apparently it's a big thing.

I feel like it is, yeah.

Matt Travaglione (11:30.274)
Yeah, he's playing Chavez Jr. Yeah, that's another relatively big name. mean Chavez Jr. was, believe, the super middleweight or light heavyweight champ for a few years until he around and just wiped everybody out.

BLEH

Trey Ballard (11:43.874)
Jake thinks that he should be taken serious after he said. Yeah.

As if he wins this he should be ranked. But then he also wants to fight Tank after this. When Tank Davis weighs 135 pounds soaking wet.

And that is true weight class wise with God, I don't think he needs to be doing that. Jake, gotta chill out, bro.

Yeah, I mean, it started off like funny and stuff, everybody, Tyson saying everyone's like, all right, this has gone too far. And then remember he fought like two bums and he's like, well, they're pro fighters and.

Nobody really gonna hurt this

Trey Ballard (12:11.126)
Somebody really gonna hurt this man.

Like when they say the term got off the couch, that guy literally got off the He had a cheeto in his ass crack. Like he didn't train up.

Jack Paul is this weekend. Yeah, that is so ugly. But that is so well, I'm just saying that in the UFC fight at the like that is just so ugly, bro. Yeah.

Yeah, it's bad. It's not a good-

Matt Travaglione (12:30.734)
That's not good.

I mean come on, he's like the next Stone Cold Steve Austin man. What are you talking about?

Are you?

Fuck that asshole. Fuck that guy.

Especially in Texas how dare you compare it to

Trey Ballard (12:46.834)
He got dick. Well, that's gonna be crazy, bro. He's literally Jake's 28 and he's a national 39 year old which 39 is not that's But that night when I'm saying but I'm saying for him to be fighting a retired boxer who's already been getting his already fought some He broke I'm talking about Caesar Chavez

told

Wes Castelhano (13:02.744)
He's so fucking cool though. I mean, I mean, come on.

I was gonna say senior was bad dude. He was at one point like 68 and I think till they lost to Oscar some other guys and stuff, but he was the man for

I mean, I just don't know how, I mean, he just, this is just gonna be crazy, like.

He might be disowned

Just listen to this Saturday night, gonna be insane.

Matt Travaglione (13:27.736)
Yeah, and then obviously we got UFC, we DeLorean, Olivera coming up. It's going to be very entertaining.

This is gonna be insane. My question is what time, I'm trying to look. I saw that it was Saturday, but I don't know what time it starts. Cause I'm trying to figure out if you think UFC is gonna try to push theirs to finish a little bit later so that everyone's watching that versus like which one will finish first? No, I'm talking about in terms of time.

in comparison to jay

Right. But I'm saying like, so to move, you're saying like, so they it doesn't align with Jake Paul's

essentially yeah like the main event

Matt Travaglione (14:02.274)
Dana White would happily take that, dude. yeah. I think he'll be like, we'll fucking start an hour before and go an hour later. Like, I don't think he's threatened by Jake Paul at all. He hates that, dude.

Literally, I just think it's gonna be crazy because like the timing of that I'm like what time is Jake Paul Stuckers? I mean, it's a 10 round fight. So it shouldn't be I think it's

Honestly, like I think the whole, don't even want to call it mystique, but I think the whole like appeal to it when it's like, he'll fight Anderson Silva. Like that could be cool and fun to watch on a Saturday when there's nothing else on, but now it's just, again, I don't think there's anything really appealing about it because everyone knows that he can, like he trains all year round. Like he can actually fight, so it doesn't make sense to keep fighting these dudes. Like I thought it was cool that Mike Perry stepped in. I love Mike Perry. His baronoko fights are amazing, but I don't know about, but he also took that short notice too. He got a bag, but.

yeah, that'd be interesting. And then what's up?

What do you guys think about what's his name? The baseball, the outfielder who got heckled and started crying.

Trey Ballard (15:00.27)
Oh, Catelle Marte? Yeah, she was fucked up. He made fun of his mom. His mom passed away in a car crash in 2017. He just said something about it to him.

I- did he say? Did they-

Matt Travaglione (15:10.414)
Dude, baseball fans are ruthless.

Yeah, I'm I'm not that's bad. But what I'm thinking is what about all the baseball players? I don't know in the 60s and the 70s all that fucking hate that got spread there

Dude, they used to throw chairs at Roger DeMare's.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying! I'm just saying, like, it did.

Well, I mean, again, there wasn't social media, there wasn't all this stuff, everything wasn't mic'd up, so you can't necessarily...

Trey Ballard (15:33.078)
Yeah, I mean, it's just something you don't do to somebody, just... No!

Yeah, the stuff like my dad used to tell me and stuff I read about about how Roger Maris was just...

because it's

Or it should like verbally through the media and everything from the fans for the bit like the home run record with

Yeah, because if it was able to be recorded, but that's like those people would have been thrown out to it just obviously Yeah, it's just you know something that comes with the times Yeah, you got it cuz you got it cuz nowadays you do got it I mean you got to be cognizant, but you got to know everybody's recording and there's always I know all this stuff is going Yeah for I mean

Wes Castelhano (16:04.084)
So that guy is banned.

No, which you should be

You know what I'm saying? Because again, like talking shit is a, like that's encouraged to a lot of those, especially at that higher level, like you look for any motivation you can get. But like, it's just certain, like that would be like, you know, there's just certain things you don't touch. You know what mean? You can say anything else about me, all that stuff. But like, you know, a family member is just like, especially your mom, you just can't say that. You know what mean? It's just not, you can't do that to somebody.

Yeah, baseball and basketball fans are by far the worst. And NFL, like, it's different because you're so engaged.

The fans be whooping the shit out of each other. They be more focused on talking shit to each other.

Matt Travaglione (16:37.366)
Also like you're further away from the core of field, your back, there's a wall, and also like they got helmets on, and like there's so much going on that even if you wear a helmet, we can't, whatever.

But I see that a lot more with football though than the other two is the fact that the fans of those sports are fighting each other all the time. Like football is always the fans. Like you're obviously talking shit to the people on field. like those sports are definitely separate those two and other. Cause there's literally like you are just fighting the fans all the time. Like each other. No, for sure. But also, wait, what were you gonna say, what?

Just too much at this point man.

Wes Castelhano (17:12.078)
For now, I'll just...

Well, I was going to say, because obviously we got the Jake Paul, but talking about Topperia and Olivera, like you said, if Olivera loses, obviously you can't get any more title shots after that.

Like again, he had a good run for a few years where he wiped out everybody and then lost to Islam. Or Islam was the reign. then essentially what Islam did is Islam just beat everybody that he did again on top of he beat Olivera and now he's moving up which again, I think that the poor I mean tour was a big 145, but it'll be interesting to see this.

So I didn't even I just why I forgot that there's also a Pantoya and Kai car friends fighting too before that So it's two title fights. So anybody I was saying I found the start time So it's supposed to the Jake Paul's did it supposed to start at seven the main card and this says the main event will be around like 10 This has the main car for UFC starting nine. So that's definitely gonna run way way past there. This is

The main card usually doesn't even start till 10 o'clock for a U of anyways.

Trey Ballard (18:08.782)
It would be crazy. literally like like I said, if you looking for a spot to watch it run on Yeah, we always just go to nodding donkey because yeah, I guess free Christie's over by my house is awesome. It's a good spot So yeah, there's a little free little free game for you

Yeah, I'm uncarious for that.

Well thanks, am I

I'm gonna be getting all worked. You're still here? Yeah. No, no, no, you good, bro. What you over there doing, dawg? What you got going? Nah, I got you, Appreciate that.

Right? I know, I'm like, get back in the control room.

Matt Travaglione (18:31.35)
Wes, your pants back on,

you know, just make sure you guys sound.

Have y'all been following this stuff? I know it's off sports, but all the uh, like I was saying before, all this courtroom stuff aside from obviously the Diddy stuff?

Well, we were talking about Fat Joe.

Yeah, so that yeah. Do you guys watch? know, as he said, you watch everything. Did you watch the documentary about Karen Reed? Is. She was married to a Boston police officer. He's of hitting him with her car. Yeah.

Trey Ballard (18:50.99)
Oh boy, I f-ed you a while.

Wes Castelhano (18:57.998)
She was

Wes Castelhano (19:03.66)
yeah, and then she hit him with her car. Yeah, that's a that's been going on forever. So yeah.

Well yesterday, yesterday just came she just got found not guilty. Yeah. What?

Yeah, that's been going on for like three years.

Sushi.

She got charged for everything, like first degree or second degree murder, vehicle manslaughter, obviously driving a

Wes Castelhano (19:23.534)
She backed up into her cop boyfriend and they said it was intentional and she was-

Well, they found a video of her hitting his car, which is why it messed up the taillights so and all this there's a lot of conspiracies But yeah, she was found not guilty. This was her second trial. The first one was a hung jury and It was a it was a mistrial so they had to do it again So she just went all through it again, but she's got a mafia fans around her man like they could hear the jury when they were Doing their ballots and everything they could hear like from the street people channel like free Karen. We're like all this it was a whole thing

Yeah, like her lawyer is from like from LA. This is up in Massachusetts. Yeah. Yeah. And like the guy is known for being like a troll of a lawyer. So it's pretty well you just had this insane legal team.

Yeah.

Yeah, she got four attorneys.

Wes Castelhano (20:09.996)
Yeah, which I'm pretty sure that she didn't have to pay for because of all the publicity these guys

Two is he's a Boston cop so cops and firefighters all go for themselves, you know, they're gonna back each other up So they're gonna pull everything out of their head that they can so she was like dude Team me up. Give me everybody so and I'm pretty sure it's the same lawyer. She had in the first one Yeah, that was crazy. But if you get a chance to watch that documentary, okay. Yeah, there's about

There's date lines, there's 48 hours, there's...

giving a lot of y'all, I'm being so honest. Zo's got me, we watching Love Island right now. And this shit is crazy. This shit's crazy, bro. I see cl- Disgusting. It is stupid, bro, but it's so crazy. You just sit like, it's so crazy. this one dude named Ace, bro, he got a blank fitted hat. Think about this, a blank fitted hat. That's like a snapback. Right, a fitted hat with no logo.

of it it looks.

Matt Travaglione (21:01.336)
Smokey wears on Friday

That's really what Smoky-

But with no logo and on top of that it always matched something like he had a blue one, had like a navy blue, he had some blue and some light blue. Every day with a hat that don't got a logo on it, Wes, that's the problem. That hurts. I don't trust anybody without a That hurts me. a hat with no logo. You don't have a logo on your hat, not anything. No, just cause we don't know where he got his... I don't know. don't think it really... I've never worn a...

oddly matches every day.

Matt Travaglione (21:24.248)
Yeah, like for trademark reason thing or? Just trying to bring it back?

was a thing, I think.

popular because again like I said Chris trucker always had the navy blue no logo thing and friday that was probably for different reasons

I mean.

Yeah, I think that was for trademark.

Trey Ballard (21:40.75)
Cause I never wore a blank hat bro. Yeah, anybody did. I just wanna say, I don't, never, but so it is just crazy cause like that happens and then it's just some of the, some of the decision making that these people that making it's just, it's so, it's so funny to see. Like you just, I can't lie. Yeah, don't think.

Just like make out with each other like back to back to back to back

You know,

I didn't really have a connection with Tom.

Yeah, so how does it differ from like Big Brother or I know I don't

Trey Ballard (22:04.844)
Bro, this shit be so crazy.

I got a pierced tongue.

Bro, that-

I

know a lot of people say they like that 90 day fiance thing. People say they like that. I can't-

Trey Ballard (22:17.518)
I didn't watch that either. All I saw was memes from it. I was just there as short guy.

I reruns of like Real World and shit.

Dude, road-

I was trying to watch Jersey Shore with them the other day and they were like, hey man, we know you're new here and you can make yourself at home, but we're not watching that shit. Bro. It was family vacation too, was a season.

Why, I'm Jersey Shore is hard.

Trey Ballard (22:36.532)
It was hard bro, you trippin' me wasn't outside if you didn't

I was trying to explain, was like, dude, it's the same thing except they have kids and they still get ham.

Matt Travaglione (22:46.222)
He's trying to be a comedian and he's a Chipmadale stripper. J-Well directs horror movies now. Mike's opened up rehab centers to get for what

Is is Polly Dee's the la DJ?

Dude, Polly's the richest one, his net worth is like 40 million dollars

like this thing because he's going crazy.

He tours everywhere. Cent

Trey Ballard (23:05.71)
I'm always like, I'm the Remember the episode where they was going to the club and they was in different calves, the girls with the boys and the girls was going crazy and the dudes just sitting there chilling. Bro, that shit was so... And they were called ugly girls grenades, but that was some of the craziest shit I ever heard in my life.

They're just... Sure time. They just hung out and the girls were just...

Matt Travaglione (23:25.838)
The guys were just like, yeah, tonight's gonna be wild. And the girls were like, I'm gonna suck the bouncers.

Literally, bro. Wow shit, bro. You I was like eighth grade had no vision watching this shit like that, but I should was like I mean sure they would even bad honestly that she was lit

And then you're like hungover watching the next day like that was me that sucks. That's it. Close to home.

Just, I don't know, just gonna have no appeal to it. It's never gotten to reality TV.

I'm just telling you bro, you mean I? That shit was crazy though that was like one of the ones because all the ones had the same sort of you know Skeleton the formula that they write before but some of them was a little like Jersey was just a little bit more like okay This is actually some some

Wes Castelhano (24:02.242)
Yeah, you get retarded

show or the series called real life on MTV like way back where it was like yeah real life I'm moving to the city real life I'm a teen

Yeah, was a real life, Jersey Shore.

I have a timeshare, have a house on Jersey Shore. So that's where it all got started. And they followed this meathead. Yeah. And he like met this girl and she was like a pole dancer and he's like, yo, I think she's the one like all this. And they're like, OK, Tom.

Yeah, he's trying to find love.

Wes Castelhano (24:26.324)
Yeah, he's like I got my my white congle hat. I my white he was white

You're like a white-nailed

Yeah, I never I never saw that how it used to so I did watch I watched real world I came in what season it was it was one that was like it was it crazy

I always like rogue roles too.

Michael to rewatch real world Las Vegas like a year ago and he was like bro I'm not watching that and he texted me one night and he was like I hate you so much he's like I can't stop watching it

Trey Ballard (24:49.742)
I don't remember which season it

This is blackout in the casino right now. It's amazing.

Oh, Yeah. Like, because that came out, I was I was I had to have been like I was probably in like fifth. I could have been like right around like in elementary school and watching. that's what I'm saying. You're just like, yeah, you like what the.

It's like when I was watching it too, this is what it's

It's called when you don't have a TV or access to the outside world basically and you just get Attracted people. Yeah, and get them hopped up. Yeah. Yeah

Matt Travaglione (25:20.873)
Yeah, I was taking notes.

Yeah. So there was like, I always liked real world, real world road rules. Yeah.

They would always beat each other up too. Yeah. That big guy TC'd looked like Matt Boulay was always fucked like.

the guy from real world France or whatever, Paris.

Close, French Canadian.

Wes Castelhano (25:40.462)
I don't know, he was in the real world Paris. Remember where he was?

Was he? don't know. Who didn't watch the real world? Bro, you just named the city that he was in. Yeah,

What?

Wes Castelhano (25:50.208)
Yeah, because of Matt Boulay. I remember you saying that I'm like, who? And then you're like, yeah, the real world.

Nice buddy. Nice save.

What?

name that on the spot.

I said I watched like real world road rules with like all the network ones like big brother your favorite survivor

Matt Travaglione (26:07.81)
comedian podcast here Theo Vaughan was on the road earlier.

I've that's I know that's I hate you don't get

is crazy.

It's a weird thing. It's like for no reason.

See you over on

Wes Castelhano (26:17.955)
I just don't find them funny. I try.

You like fuck your girlfriend in college? Like why do you hate this guy so much?

She probably blew on her.

don't think he that funny either but like I don't really I mean I don't really even pay attention to him much but from what I have seen he like he's just saying some crap.

I'm sure he can be a nice guy. He just doesn't seem fun to hang out with. don't want him. I'm sure he's a nice guy.

Trey Ballard (26:36.974)
We're not talking to a T. L.

Yeah, I just had the altercation with that guy, but I guess he like grabbed him by the throat and pushed him back. was like, look, I'm in show business too. I'm a guitarist in Nashville. They're trying to compare like their like limelight to each other. Everyone was like, yeah, we're done with that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was trying to like take a picture with

Trey Ballard (26:53.486)
Bro this- Yeah like bro get the-

The guitar said that.

Yeah, he's like, I'm in the entertainment business too. I get it. I'm like, no one comes up to you and ask you for autographs. get where he's coming from.

Yeah, but what are you talking about?

Yeah, like you're like the amount of streams of your songs he gets in one day for his podcast. So yeah, you can just, just, calm down, buddy.

Matt Travaglione (27:18.51)
so the other courtroom thing I want to talk about and I was telling Vic about this today. It's called like the hashtag Preppy fight party or let me pull this up real quick. It's wild I'm to tell you right now. Hold on

preppy boda what

Is it on court TV? yeah

It's amazing. essentially what happened was these kids were having a house party. This is, and some other kids came up, got into a little scuffle, whatever, went to another house party. The other guys followed them, got into scuffle again. One of the kids got, a knife out of the car.

I see. I gotta pull the-

Matt Travaglione (27:59.0)
four of them killed one of the kids.

something Connecticut, right? Yeah. 17 year old James.

Tag is like preppy.

Yeah, it's a preppy party murder trial. There it is. Yeah. That's fun to say.

And I was watching all the depositions yesterday. So they're trying to figure out if it was between some-

Trey Ballard (28:14.858)
is crazy.

Why guys in Connecticut going fucking crazy?

He's Hispanic, the guy that's on the perfect right? Yeah, so there's the kids up there that are saying like yeah, I punched him first He's like he's like my buddy punched him first and then I hit him twice in the face and got on top of him and then he started stabbing me so they're trying to figure out if it's self-defense or Because he went back to his car to get the knife So it's this whole thing and it's crazy and the kid they got stabbed that died He was trying to break it up like he doesn't even want people

Which that's it's a story should there be going on

That's why you just stand back and say, break it up. Don't do that.

Matt Travaglione (28:53.762)
Don't you

Stop. What are we doing? No. Like no, let's listen.

Break this up? I mean we should but I don't want to. Well it's just like in South Park where Timmy and Jimmy had their cripple fight. See that? And then after they beat the shit out of each other they're like alright kids now break it up. Yeah. Like after like five minutes.

Yeah, lead him along

Trey Ballard (29:15.374)
We gotta leave that alone bro, they like, yeah. Crippin' light! They're like, yeah, let's not let this keep going.

Them joining that gang was so funny. Join the Crips. day I was dying laughing. Yeah.

It's like, on, they weren't even born Crips. Yeah, Yeah. That one was probably one of my, that was probably one of my favorite. Cause it's so it's South. They established themselves right at the right time. And it's like, dude, this is just to be expected. It's like weird if they don't do something like that. But they were making fun. Yeah. With Christopher Reeves with him, I think people would have STEM cells. Cause there was actually a theory that they would.

That's crazy.

Matt Travaglione (29:35.566)
know how to get away with half that stuff.

Crazy, yeah, it's up.

Wes Castelhano (29:54.23)
I guess the elite or whatever, the deep state would crack the baby's necks and like suck the blood. And I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, people actually think that? Like, that's a thing. I'm like, what?

What are we doing?

I was like, that's not how get to themselves.

That's another topic too. dirty old Justin Tucker just got a 10 game... I talked about that like the first time I was here.

Yeah, that's that was crazy, suspension for

Trey Ballard (30:24.462)
He's a free agent. He can serve penalty as free agent if it was released by Ravens in May.

So he

Matt Travaglione (30:32.43)
I'll get the

Well, this is the same tuck from the Giants, right?

No.

Justin Tuck.

my bad. I'm totally okay with not knowing. I'm totally okay. I just saw, heard...

Matt Travaglione (30:45.528)
Or defensive lineman that was just crushing everybody. Yeah Justin Tucker's the guy I was saying like a few weeks back that he's I think got the highest field goal percentage We're talking football

So.

Wes Castelhano (30:56.056)
Yes, I realize that.

Just had to make sure.

No, mean, feels more-

I joking around and like, yeah, I shot three home runs.

Oh, yeah. And that's what we call in tennis a s-

Matt Travaglione (31:06.578)
He was the one I was telling you that was going around kind of doing like the Deshaun Watson thing. Just getting help. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Deshaun is a huge hockey name.

Bucky?

Trey Ballard (31:15.502)
It was some hockey in there.

Some stick play. Eww. Eww. But yeah, he got in trouble. He's the one that I was telling you that wasn't even going to like dirty massage parlors. He was trying to do this at like the West End and like- Oh, that-

Yeah!

Wes Castelhano (31:29.39)
That guy, that guy. Well, I mean, just don't do it in Baltimore. That's where they shot, anything that happens in Baltimore, like, that's where they shot the wire. That's all I, every time I hear it.

like the nice spots.

Matt Travaglione (31:39.766)
If anywhere has to do with it's Baltimore. know how much stuff they sweep under the rug? get so much more important stuff to look at.

that's valid as well.

You get away with it in Chicago?

A place kicker getting jerked off? Right. Of all the stuff we gotta do. They were so probably pissed off they had to look into that. We got 300 unsolved murders and we got it like into hand jobs? Right.

They were like, dude, are you serious?

Trey Ballard (31:57.742)
Like, what are we doing?

The woes

Better get overtime for this.

Yeah, that's a that's a bullshit Just yeah, there's if you got nothing better to do in Baltimore then look Yeah kicker getting jerked off at a hotel Marriott I mean, I think you could get away with that in Chicago, too I mean, I'm trying to get another city

I'm not

Matt Travaglione (32:20.748)
You could probably get away with it if you did it like once or twice and twice and spread it out. Yeah, they're

You do it a lot?

He was going crazy

Like he always like deducted it from his taxes, everything.

out of pocket. Literally. He was literally. Yeah. He was out of pocket.

Matt Travaglione (32:33.516)
You fuck.

He was going like Ritz Carlton's be like, hey, where's the spa? Honey, take the kids to the pool. Hour and a half.

and then going in there and I get

He's asking for like hojo's to go

Well, like, yeah, and it just wasn't that sort of setup. Like, it wasn't those type of workers there, bro.

Wes Castelhano (32:51.382)
Well, yeah, so he

went to school for two years for this. Yeah.

Yeah, that was crazy.

He like slid over cash. He's like, well, I'm Justin Tucker.

He tried to pull like a Donnie burger where he just has like a-

Matt Travaglione (33:03.982)
That's what I saying, like literally put like a hundred bucks in this fly and be like

Yeah, yeah, dude, like I said, these weren't those type of workers,

No, they weren't. Well, I know, because all I was thinking was, you know, like you call like an escort or something. It's like, all right, who cares?

Yeah, these are the ones that had like, zen go-

yeah, okay.

Trey Ballard (33:19.711)
Having people come to his house like he's having like Instagram massage therapist come to his house like pretty much Instagram models masquerading as

Who? Dachan? Yeah. Nice. I mean, not nice, but...

Girl is amazing. I started following her for a bit. She's like model. She was at the swimsuit thing in Miami. Yeah, and she does like all this cooking stuff. She is gorgeous

I mean come on. He's got the back He's got the bag for it. Yeah, he's got the bag Yeah, the bag for it shit to for

200 plus million you got a summer. He's a really nice guy. He's really sweet.

Wes Castelhano (33:54.542)
Those are called yes, we got contracts. What was the 75 million guaranteed for the Jacksonville Jaguars player? I was talking to Matt about this But 30 well he's I get that but 75 is an insane amount of money for not playing it down I'm sorry with a 40 million dollar I think

So Travis Hunter.

Yeah

Trey Ballard (34:13.134)
I thought

Yeah, I thought you got 30.

Matt Travaglione (34:18.999)
With incentives it could be worth up to that, but like his guarantee...

Yo, cuz you, mean, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Yeah, I thought it was he got guaranteed no matter what he woke up the next day here. Here's five minutes

He had a $30.57 million signing bonus. His guarantee is going to be $46.65 fully guaranteed.

Right.

Wes Castelhano (34:40.27)
So he hasn't played it down. Yeah. $75 million basically.

just but he got 30 well he got 30 he got 30.57 over already

Got it, but yeah, I'm just saying, but no.

think all these kids are getting that just got drafted yesterday. Even more money. I'm saying like it's-

I don't I'm just I'll just five

Trey Ballard (34:57.272)
I read something.

They Cooper flag can be worth a billion dollars by the time he's 30 31 if he plays like he doesn't get signs both his super extensions and everything.

extension.

Trey, what was that thing I said to on Instagram about Cooper flag? Like the renewal ever since we got flag, the renewal for Dallas Mavs fans is like 80 % and they're up like $8 million in new tickets sale. Yeah, something, yeah. Flag is going to be-

yeah, you sent me that.

Matt Travaglione (35:26.848)
It's crazy man how they went from being one of the most frowned upon for like one of the most exciting franchises to one of the most frowned upon to back to being Yeah, right in the limelight when you see everything

Do you want to give Nico the credit? I'm just saying, you know, he's going to try to, he's going to try to play it off. Like he had this all going on. I'm not saying he did. I'm just saying.

Oh man, mean, I'll- Like a 3.7 % chance to get it.

That's why they say it's all scripted. Yeah.

So, which again, I don't.

Wes Castelhano (35:57.41)
But and Trey broke it down. did a whole show about is it rigged? And it's impossible for it to be rigged. It's improbable that it happened. it's very improbable, but it's not impossible.

Even the same, like even like LeBron going to Cleveland like granted they were the number one and all that but it's still just, you know, yeah. It's stuff that like was Zion too when he was coming out you think of NBA was like, oh, New Orleans. That's where he needs to be. Yeah, but it'll be it'll be interesting too because the Mavs have all that stuff where the owner is trying to buy a casino and tie all that in so there's a lot of there's a lot of different stuff behind the scenes that they're trying to do.

Yeah.

Trey Ballard (36:26.808)
So, yeah. Not at all.

Wes Castelhano (36:39.104)
Dallas needed, he needs that. it's going to be, yeah, it's going to be a fun one to see. And I saw that the NHL is extending their season to 84 games. That's a lot of hockey.

A little infusion of hope.

Matt Travaglione (36:49.196)
about it.

But I mean, that's what they want to do. Sure.

I mean, cool, like, God bless, but...

But like two games like

I don't know how much

Wes Castelhano (36:59.79)
Yeah, what's what's the increase in that? Oh, so they do 82 games

I think the viewership for the All-Star Final Four Cup that they did had probably more than the NHL Finals. That was so much fun. Everybody was engaged to that. I had other friends be like, dude, have ever seen hockey before? Like, this is amazing. Yeah. That's great.

You know, Loki's a-

Matt Travaglione (37:23.99)
Yeah, but that was that was a fun time. I'm glad that did that. Now the NBA is doing USA versus the world. This is becoming one which should be kind of cool.

Matt Travaglione (37:35.042)
What though if they don't give a shit like what's the point of like you can slice and dice it anyway you want to if they don't care then

then there's no point in even doing it cuz-

They they should just do the skills challenge, I think.

gotta figure out something with the dog contest, too.

They have to do like a big prize or something that's like the one thing that Steve and I said in a while that I agreed upon where I did like the idea of getting like Do a tournament from each guy in the state and like one player from each like sponsor somebody if they win they get a million dollars from like I think that'd be really cool. Because like none of the big guys want to do anymore I think Yannis and said he was gonna do it and someone I came around the other person. I think Jalen Brown had already done it. Yeah, but I Don't know man. It's just not the same like

Wes Castelhano (38:17.304)
What are you talking about the dunk contest now? Why are they- who doesn't- No, that's like the best part.

It used to be. It used to be. I said they should make it. Why? Yeah, I didn't say they should get rid of it. said they should do it.

Last good ones were with... Last good ones were Zach Levine and Aaron Gordon. That was... which is crazy to say, that was almost 10 years ago.

I worked here.

Because like nobody's like really into it or is this everything's been done

Matt Travaglione (38:38.945)
names anymore.

And there's a lot of dunks that... It's hard to be creative now because a lot of shit has been... I thought it was... You can see a lot of it from like competitive dunkers that aren't in the NBA. Yeah, right. A lot of crazy stuff. it's all over social media.

Yeah, it's hard to be innovative.

Wes Castelhano (38:53.486)
Yeah, it kind of takes away. It's like, oh, did you see that? You're like, yeah, I found about 45,000 other videos that are the exact same. I got that. Yeah, that makes sense. all right, gentlemen, this has been a pleasure as always. All right. Well, Trey, do you got any last remarks?

I'm good. I left it all on the floor.

Man look, hey, we left it all out there like Matt said man. I couldn't say no better myself

Trey Trey, you got anything you gotta say?

Wes Castelhano (39:20.992)
Well, as your coach, it could be better.

That's valid. I'm always continue to take that criticism and build and build upon that because that's all you can do is just a water boy

As your producer

Matt Travaglione (39:33.72)
Stay behind the boo-

As your producer. guys. Stay with Steve. Alright guys, have a good one. see you next week.

Yes sir. Bye.