Haunted Real Estate: Bad Business Investment? | 10/30/25

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (00:00.236)
Hey man, let's go. That's the radio voice kicking in. Okay. Hey, what's up pops? Hey man, here we are. Another episode of small business living it. do it. So it's October 30th. Tis the day. Almost October 31st, Halloween. So what's been your, how would you rank Halloween in the, your world? of holidays, if you will.

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That's the radio voice kicking in. Okay. Hey, what's up, Or another episode of small business living

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riverside dean castelhano wes (00:11.8)
Let's do it. So it's October 30th, almost October 31st, Halloween. So what's been your how would you rank Halloween in the your world of holidays, if you will?

This is the day.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (00:28.948)
It was, it was big in college. but I don't, it's fun, but it's, some people like live for it and I have nothing against it, but it's not like my, my absolute favorite. I would say like Thanksgiving time. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, so you would rank it below Christmas, below Thanksgiving, equal with Easter, below Easter.

It was big in college. But I don't... It's fun. it's... Some people like live for it. And I have nothing against it, but it's not like my... Yeah. My absolute favorite. I would say like Thanksgiving time. Okay.

Yeah, yeah, so you would rank it below Christmas, below Thanksgiving, equal with Easter, below Easter.

I don't really, do you still consider it a holiday? Yeah, right? Oh God. No, no, it's not against the Christian faith. just like, when you think holiday, I think holiday season. Yeah. Fun holiday. Celebration. Yeah, Halloween kicks off the celebration season. Yeah.

I don't really consider holiday. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. Okay. No, no, it's not against the Christian faith. just like, when you think holiday, I think holiday season. Yeah. Fun, fun holiday celebration. Yeah. Halloween kicks off the celebration season. So I think, you know, this is called welcome to small business living it. We're here with Wes the, the

riverside dean castelhano wes (00:57.057)
Okay.

riverside dean castelhano wes (01:10.872)
So I think, you know, this is called Welcome to Small Business Living It. We're here with Wes, the serial redesigner of Second Floor.

serial redesigner of second floor. It's modular. Okay. That's the way I like to it. Okay. There we go. Well, it depends on the mood, man. Man, we might, we might just say we're in a different location every time we're moving around. you know, we wouldn't, we went with wireless mics and chairs last time. Now we can do, we got our desk back when we were kind of old school. So it always looks good. Thanks. this is Wes's idea to do a little bit of a Halloween twist. We're going to

It's modular. Okay, that's the way the way I like say. Yeah. There we go. Well, it depends on the mood man

And we might just say we're in a different location every time we're moving around.

Well, you know, we with wireless mics and chairs last time. Now we can do, we got our desk back when we were kind of old school.

riverside dean castelhano wes (01:39.15)
So it always looks good. Thanks. this is Wes's idea to do a little bit of a Halloween twist. We're going to throw a little real estate, a little business into this. So let me, let me just say that I would say that when I was a kid, grew up in New York, the best costume you could get were those really thin rayon with those plastic masks with the hole in the mouth.

throw a little real estate, a little business into this. So let me, let me just say that I would say that when I was a kid, grew up in New York, the best costume you could get were those really thin rayon with those plastic masks with the hole in the mouth. would cut you barely stick your tongue into that little hole. so great. So Fred Flintstone.

stick your tongue into that little hole so Fred Flintstone I remember all of them but for some reason the Flintstones

So creepy.

So creepy. don't even remember all of them, but for some reason the Flintstones. The Flintstones. God, I just remember that just like that's what they use in the Joker movie. You're like just the crappy little plastic and you have the one little string. Yeah. Yeah. That, but like now people are like super, super creative. Well, and you know, to that point I was wondering where you got your costumes, how early you got them.

Wes Castelhano (02:19.928)
Flintstones, God, I just remember that's what they use in the Joker movie. You're like just the crappy little plastic and you have the one little string. Yeah. Yeah, that... But now people are super, super creative.

Well, and you know, to that point I was wondering where you got your costumes, how early you got them, were there any real parties? And I would say, no, no, no, no. And then at some point, probably 20 years ago, those haunted houses came into existence. The pop-up stores in your existence. Yeah. Right. So it's bit, okay. It's kind of a,

Were there any real parties? And I would say, no, no, no, no. And then at some point, probably 20 years ago, those haunted houses came into existence. The pop-up stores came into existence. Right. So it's OK. It's kind of a.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (03:07.214)
Good. All right. So it's a, what I would call it's a, uh, an interim use for real estate now. And I think it's probably more lucrative than it ever was. So if you have an empty, I will say party city, I think it is a Halloween store. Yeah. The spirit is the, is the big boy. is it? So are they just there? 60 days or nine 30 days? I would think, well, maybe, maybe 60. Yeah. For like setup, but yeah. Cause

Good. All right. So it's a what I would call it's an interim use for real estate now. And I think it's probably more lucrative than it ever was. So if you have an empty I will say party city. I think it is a Halloween store. Yeah.

Spirit is the is the big bull.

is it? So are they just 60 days or 90?

days I would think well maybe maybe 60 yeah for like setup but yeah because because they're gone like the next day right

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (03:36.856)
Cause they're gone like the next day. Right. That's pretty, that's a, that's a change in that's a wild concept. That's like a gig economy before gig economy. then, then we'll go to the candy side. Right. So I'm, when I was a kid, the candy options were not tremendous. mean, right. You didn't come in the big packs. didn't get to like the dumbbell side, stupid apples. And sometimes people would do candy apple then

That's a change in the

That's a wild concept. That's a gig economy before gig economy.

So then we go to the candy side, right? So when I was a kid, the candy options were not tremendous. mean, you didn't come in the big pack, apples, and sometimes people would do candy apple dentin.

You didn't get to like the dumbbell side.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (04:05.39)
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People were like trying to kill people in the candy. So you had, Oh, so there was that, was one time, one time. Well, it killed the whole apple. Yeah. At, uh, at Halloween. there was, uh, there was kind of a joke cause I was listening to something about like the, the myths of the, razor blades and candy. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. And the, or like LSD, I think that was like, there was some truth to it, but

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

People are like trying to kill people in the candy. you have.

so there was that that was one time one time Yeah So there was there was kind of a joke because I was listening to something about like their the myths of the the razor blades and candy Yeah, yeah, and the are like LSD. I think there was like There was some truth to it, but somebody brought up a good point One nobody gives drugs away for free

Well killed the whole apple at

riverside dean castelhano wes (04:26.274)
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riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (04:34.734)
somebody brought up a good point. One, nobody gives drugs away for free. Well said. So razor blades are cheap. But I think they found it and it was not from a stranger. It was from like a parent that did it. Yeah. So there was just, he blamed it on the candy. It was a parent trying to kill. Oh, so there's a little bit of true crime. Yeah. It's more of a true crime. And that's where

Well said.

Razor Blades are-

You're ready to play for cheap, but I think they found it and it was not from a stranger was from like a parent That did it. Yeah, so there was ingested he blamed it on the candy. It was a parent try to kill. Oh, oh, so there's a little bit of true Yeah, it's more of a true crime and that's where Yeah, that was that was a big one. Then they're like, yeah the the drugs And it's like well you kind of go why would just somebody want to give kids LSD? That just doesn't make it makes no sense

crying.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (05:03.502)
Yeah, that was a big one. Then they're like, the drugs and it's like, well, you kind of go, why would just somebody want to give kids LSD? That just doesn't make it. It makes no sense. So we're dispelling all those myths. Maybe bring the apples back. I don't know, but that was certifying, put your name on them. I can't give a shout out to Mrs. McClure from Hilton drive. She had the best candy because she had many.

That was a... I gotta give a shout out to Mrs. McClure from Hilton Drive. She had the best candy because she had many... it like it's like own little like grab bag. Yeah. And she only made it for like a certain amount of us. So I felt really special. So shout out to Mrs. McClure for that. Always will remember.

was like its own little grab bag. The bags, And she only made it for a certain amount of us. So I felt really special. So shout out to Mrs. McClure for that. Always remember. So we've raided holidays. let's now, well, and we'll talk about Ritz and Parker in a minute where Wes grew up. I'm just going to say for context, in the 60s, so I was 10, 11, 12 years old, one thing we discovered was apartment complexes, which we didn't have.

The bags,

riverside dean castelhano wes (05:41.902)
So let's, so we've raided holidays, so let's now, well, and we'll talk about Ritz and Parker in a minute, whereas Wes grew up. I'm just gonna say for context, in the 60s, so I was 10, 11, 12 years old, one thing we discovered was apartment complexes, which we didn't have a lot of, although at one point we lived in one. In 30 minutes, you were golden.

a lot of, although at one point we lived in one in 30 minutes, you were golden. You're just knocking on three doors. We go to the landing, there's four doors. It's like knock, knock, knock. Boom, here comes the candy. So we would get, we do really well and we'd never really get in the car and go anywhere. Although that's a thing now too, right? Well, you got to go to, do you want to go to like

They're just knocking on three doors at the you know we go to the landing. There's four doors. It's like not.

Yo, yeah, just to go once there. Yeah

Boom, here comes the candy. So we would get, we'd do really well and we'd never really get in the car and go anywhere, although that's a thing now too.

Wes Castelhano (06:27.499)
Well, you got to go to, you know, do you want to go to like Highland Park? You know, they might have better candy.

Highland Park, you know, they might have better candy. Well, so I would say I would I would go to apartment complexes. Yeah, no, they've that was a big thing. Charleston was the apartment complex. A lot of kids trick or treated in it. Yeah. So I bought candy last year. Nobody came up. No. Yeah, I know. It's well, they got to get in the building. Yeah, that's true. They got to be in the building. So there's then the so we we did well, I would say the

Well, I would say I would go to a complex.

Yeah, no, they've that was a big thing Charleston was the apartment complex a lot of kids trick-or-treating in it Yeah, so I bought candy last year. Nobody came up

No, yeah, I know. Well, they got to get in the building. They got to be in the building. So we did well, I would say.

Wes Castelhano (06:52.032)
Yeah, that's

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (07:02.114)
Ooh, music. yeah. No, that's a, don't know if you can hear that, there's some sirens going right there. here in the neighborhood. Yeah. I you're doing background music. No, I mean I can. That would be cool. No, I'll just go like this. Yeah. Dub it in there. Yeah. I'll dub it in. Okay. Yeah. So the, no, those were, you know, and trying to relate it to real estate and business. So apartment complexes are good, are good, places or used to be.

Oh yeah, no that's uh, I don't know if you can hear that but there's some sirens going right there. Oh whoa.

here in the neighborhood. Yeah. I you're doing background.

No, do you want I mean I can that would be really no, I'll just go like this. Yeah. I'll dub it in.

it dub it in there yeah okay yeah so the no those were you know and trying to relate it to real estate and business so apartment complexes are good are good places or used to be no

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (07:31.594)
No, I think they I think if you're in like like where we're at because it is so large if you have kids You know, you only need to get in the building once and then you're yeah, it's massive wants to do that, but I think when when you're you just made me think about when you were talking about the Haunted mansions and stuff. Yeah, there's a whole documentary. I saw an HBO about these extreme haunted houses like

I think that, I think if you're in like, like where we're at, because it is so large, if you have kids, you know, you only need to get in the building once and then you're, yeah, it's massive. Wants to do that. But I think when, when you're, you just made me think about when you were talking about the haunted mansions and stuff, there's a whole documentary I saw at HBO about these extreme haunted houses.

Where you gotta sign waivers, gotta get doctors. yeah. I was like, think this guy just wants, the guy, main guy they were talking about, I'm like, this just feels like he just tortures you. There's no, really? There's nothing haunted about it. He's just beats the shit out of you until you give up. Like, I'm like, there's no, I would think like, hey, can you go stay in this mental hospital that's haunted? It would be more, that's what I would think a haunted house. Yeah. Yeah.

Where you gotta sign waivers, gotta get doctors. yeah. I was like, think this guy just wants, the guy, main guy they were talking about, like this just feels like he just tortures you. There's no, really? There's nothing haunted about it. He's just beats the shit out of you until you give up. Like, I'm like, there's no, I would think like, hey, can you go stay in this mental hospital that's haunted? It would be more, that's what I would think a haunted house. Makes sense. Yeah.

Makes sense. Paranormal aspect.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (08:26.796)
Yeah, the paranormal aspect of it. I was going to say like in the sixties, I'm assuming that Halloween meant scary, right? Or was supposed to be like Fright Night type stuff. Dress up and scary. There wasn't really scary when we were kids. But when we got to Richardson, there was a couple of scariest, but I do want to say my favorite Halloween. Yeah. Was in college when

I was gonna say like in the 60s, I'm assuming that Halloween med scary Right or was supposed to be like fright night type stuff

dress up and scary. There wasn't really scary when we were kids. But when we got to Richardson, there was a couple of scariest, but I do want to say my favorite Halloween was in college when four of us painted our faces like Kiss. And the best part about that is nobody could tell who you were.

four of us painted our faces like Kiss. yeah. And the best part about that is nobody could tell who you were. Why do you think that? Yeah. Why do you think Slipknot wears their mask? Cause you get to become somebody different. Well, and nobody, there's anonymity to it. Right. Exactly. So that was so much fun. We, can't tell you which one I was. I wasn't Gene Simmons. I was one of the other guys. Did you have the star, the whiskers? I I had a star.

yeah!

Wes Castelhano (09:04.855)
Why do think that, yeah, why do you Slipknot wears their mask? Cause you get to become somebody different.

Well, nobody, there's anonymity to it. So that was so much fun. We, I can't tell you which one I was. I wasn't Gene Simmons. I was one of the other.

Right, exactly.

Wes Castelhano (09:20.205)
Did have the star, the whiskers? think I had. So you were Paul Stanley. If you had two stars you were Ace Freely. And then if you had the star you were Paul Stanley. You're the lead guitarist.

the

So you were Paul Stanley. right. So yeah. If you had two stars, you're ace freely. Uh And then if you had the star, you're Paul Stanley. Okay. I'll say I Paul. If, uh, Joanne Saperito is out there, maybe she'll remember. Yeah. But, um, that was my favorite. It was never really a big deal. It was, it was fun in college when I was 10 years old, we got a lot of candy. love candy. love

If Joanne Saperito is out there, maybe she'll remember. But that was my favorite. It was never really a big deal. was fun in college when I was 10 years old. We got a lot of candy. love candy. I love Baby Ruth's, O'Henry's. So those are the nutty chocolate bars. I love licorice.

Yeah.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (09:50.702)
Baby Ruth's, O'Henry's, so those are the nutty chocolate bars. I love licorice and bazooka joe bubblegum. Couldn't go wrong. What are your candy? I would say Snickers, Reese's, Twix maybe. Did you like that candy corn stuff? It never bothered me. think that, you know, what was it they said that they made all of it?

and Bazooka Joe bubble.

I would say snickers, reeses, twigs maybe.

Mm-hmm.

You like that corn candy corn stuff

Wes Castelhano (10:12.639)
It never bothered me. think that, you know, what was it? They said that they made all of it 30 years ago. They haven't had to make any more because nobody wants it.

30 years ago, they haven't had to make any more because nobody wants it. That's funny. Like fruitcakes. Yeah, right. So they preserve, they preserve. So I mean, if they're there, but that's not Sour Patch Kids is always going to be number one. Got it. So who's the big winner? Which business is the big winner for Halloween? Is it the candy guys? Yeah. Because I mean, think about just all the sales and people who just get it regularly and then just, I don't even know. Cause I learned

That's funny, like fruitcakes.

Yeah, right. So they preserve they preserve so I mean if they're there, but that's not sour patch kids is always going to be number one. Got me

So who's the big winner? Which business is the big winner for Halloween? Is it the candy guy?

Wes Castelhano (10:37.515)
Yeah, because I mean, think about just all the sales and people who just get it regularly and then just I don't even know because I learned Victoria taught me the trick when you see the deals at grocery stores, you don't look at the the item price. You look at the like price per ounce. Sure. So if I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure that if there's not much difference in price for like if you're going by ounces and it's like a 60 ounce bag versus like the regular

Victoria taught me the trick when you see the deals at grocery stores, you don't look at the the item price. look at like price per ounce. Sure. So if I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure that if there's not much difference in price for like if you're going by ounces and it's like a 60 ounce bag versus like the regular. Is it really that are you talking like a cent or is it like 10 cents difference? So I don't know. All right. So let's say

Is it really that, are you talking like a cent or is it like 10 cents difference? So I don't know.

Alright, so let's say as a consumer, as a receiver of the candy, right? We got the favorite candy. We think the candy guys are the winners. Now I would say some of the costume guys, but by far volume-wise I'm just...

as a consumer, a receiver of the candy, right? We got the favorite candy. We think the candy guys are the winners. Now I would say some of the costume guys, but by far volume wise, I'm sure. Well, costumes, the good thing, the winners are, if you're a business, is if bars have contest. True. So you got the best. So are bars. Bars are huge, way more huge than they were. I actually won one year at Freddie Mercury. Yeah. We should look up how much Halloween.

Wes Castelhano (11:27.031)
Well, costumes, the good thing, the winners are if you're a business is if you know, bars have contest. True. So you got the best. I won. Yeah, I actually won one year as Freddie Mercury.

Bar bars, huge, way more huge.

riverside dean castelhano wes (11:41.421)
Yeah, we should look up how much Halloween contributes to the economy because in like, would benchmark it even 30, 20, 25 years ago, that would be a really interesting.

contributes to the economy because in like I would benchmark it even 30 20 25 years ago that would be a really interesting yeah so I kind of have that like the the haunted properties and stuff like here yeah Alice actually brings up like millions and millions of dollars in and in tourism oh really okay so what it generates annually like the haunted house and ghost tourism industry

Yeah, so I kind of have that like the haunted properties and stuff like here. Dallas actually brings up like millions and millions of dollars in tourism. So what it generates annually, like the haunted house and ghost tourism industry, about $100 million a year. Whoa. And just Dallas.

Really? Okay.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (12:12.59)
About a hundred million dollars a year. Whoa in death and just Dallas in Dallas. Yeah, so let's let's Bring you back to a time when you went to London. Oh, yeah, yeah Well, that was like that's like ultimate that's not Halloween. That's that's Jack the Ripper. They went to the Tower of London and yeah London Dungeon, but I think that was what you think that would scare you still today I'm giving vibes, but I wouldn't be scared because of watch

Dallas. So let's let's bring you back to a time when you went to London.

yeah, well that was like, that's like ultimate. That's Jack the Ripper. Then what's the Tower of London and yeah, London dungeon. But I think that was what's

That's not Halloween, that's

riverside dean castelhano wes (12:36.299)
I that would scare you still today.

I'm giving you vibes, but I wouldn't be scared because of so much true crime. Yeah. You know, so it's more fascinating to me, but like to me that era, the Victorian to the industrial gilded age, like right, right, You know, late 1800s to about right before prohibition and some of like one of those creepy, I don't know. There's something about the industrial revolution. It's got that seediness. Yeah.

so much true crime. Yeah. You know, so it's more fascinating to me, but like to me that era, the Victorian to the industrial Gilded Age, like right, right, You know, late 1800s to about right before Prohibition. It's something like one of those creepy. I don't know. There's something about the industrial revolution. It's got that seediness. Yeah. Yeah. I think that it, it, if I'm

Yeah, think that it, if I'm reading you right, it's higher density living, it's dirty soot, because you have industry that's polluting.

reading you, right? It's, higher density living. It's dirty with soot because you have industry that's polluting the air. And then you got eight people living in a one bedroom and then you just got, crime is rampant. You know, but that's where also my other part of it comes out where it's saying great art and culture come out of poverty stricken times. Yes. Absolutely suffering. It's 1970s New York. What a game was.

Wes Castelhano (13:14.379)
with us.

Wes Castelhano (13:19.053)
Right and then you got eight people living in one bedroom and then you just got crime is rampant. You know but that's where also my other part of it comes out where it's saying great art and culture come out of poverty stricken times. It's 1970s New York. What a game was. So yeah how did you survive that one? The guardian angels.

Absolutely suffering.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (13:39.338)
So yeah, how did you survive that one? Yeah, right. I, you know, I don't know a day at a time. The guardian angels. Yeah. So the, now there's, there's so much, that I was saying. So if you moved into, so let's go to real estate. If you moved into a house and it had a presence, how would you handle it? It just,

Yeah, you know, I don't know. A day at a time.

So the, there's so much that I was saying. So if you moved into, so let's go to real estate. If you moved into a house and it had a presence, how would you handle it?

It just, so this is almost like Amyville Hart from where, right? Yeah, Not too far from where you're from.

So this is almost like Amityville horror from where, right? Not too far from where you're from. Um, I- Well, we had poltergeists, we had, um- No, but wasn't Amityville in New York? Yeah, Long Island. Long Island, yeah. have been, yeah, Long Yeah, so it wasn't far from where- was- Was that a real thing? Yeah, so the- Oh, okay. So with the real Amityville horror, not the supernatural one, but it was the guy who killed his whole family. Okay. Inside that house. Got it. So, which seems to be like the precursor.

riverside dean castelhano wes (14:10.893)
We had poltergeist, had...

No, but wasn't Amityville in New York?

Yeah, Long Island.

Yeah, so wasn't far from that thing? so with the real Amityville horror, not the supernatural one, but it was the guy who killed his whole family inside that house. Got it. So it seems to be like the precursor. Burned it down. Yeah. So the

That was, was that a real?

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (14:36.942)
Burn it down. it down. Yeah. Burn that one down. So the, you can get an insured for ghosts, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. I wonder, cause it'd like, dude, it wasn't me, man. What was that? Paranormal activity. I think that it, I think it's like you become hyper aware and your senses start to, so interesting start to play some fact. do you believe in ghosts?

it down. that one down. You can get it insured for ghost.

I wouldn't be surprised. I wonder because be like, dude, it wasn't me, man.

Right, paranormal activity.

I think that it, think it's like you become hyper aware and your senses start to start to play some fact now.

riverside dean castelhano wes (14:59.757)
Interesting.

So you believe in ghosts?

I don't know. I don't I'm I can't I'm agnostic to it. Yeah, there's there's it'd be cool. Be cool. I showed up but it wouldn't I don't want to know that like Gary's watching me or something like that. I just don't like the idea of but like I think that if you I've been in high-tenth situations where it's like dude there was just a ghost to be like, yeah, what's that man? Yeah, I was like cuz it never made sense to me that

I was just, I don't know. I don't, I'm, can't, I'm agnostic to it. There's, there's, it'd be cool, but I don't want to know that like, who's watching me or something like that. I just don't like the idea of, but like, I think that if you, I've been in high tense situations where it's like, dude, there was just a ghost to be like, yeah, what's that man? I was like, cause it never made sense to me that, okay, it goes.

Okay, it goes on to hurt you can go through the wall, but then it could but so therefore it doesn't matter doesn't affect it, but then it could knock something over. it doesn't make sense to me. Like it's got no mass as the mass like if it either you're bored of the other on this one, like, you know, like I can't choose to transcend. So, you know, they're, you know, I'm not saying like the soul or the spirit, like I'm not trying to get a religion. I'm just saying like ghost. Yeah.

Wes Castelhano (15:36.151)
can go through the wall, but then it could, but so therefore it doesn't matter. Doesn't affect it, but then it could knock something over. it doesn't make sense to me. Like as the mass, like if it either you're bored of the other on this one, like, you know, like I can't choose to transcend. So, you know, you know, I'm not saying like the soul or the spirit, like I'm not trying to get a religion. just saying like ghost. Yeah.

Got no mass.

riverside dean castelhano wes (15:55.757)
with you.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (16:04.014)
So the more funny, so you've been in the Tesla, right? Yeah. And you can see now that it senses stuff around you. If it's a truck in front of you, it's a shape of a truck. If it's a cone, it's a shape of a cone. It shows traffic lights, cars, everything, people walking. So the other day we're pulling into Trisha's garage. Oh, was, there was a person, there was a shadow of a person.

So the, it's funny. you've been in the Tesla, right? Yeah. And you can see now that it senses stuff around you. If it's a truck in front of you, it's a shape of a truck. If it's a cone, it's a shape of a cone. It shows traffic lights, cars, everything, people walking. So the other day we're pulling into Trisha's garage. There was a person, there was a shadow of a person.

but was it you don't know

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (16:32.27)
that showed up on the right front off the right front fender just for a second. Oh, and it disappeared. So we're like, uh, what was that? So so babe, are we moving? A glitch in the hardware. mean, Tesla's also like, you know, there's how many it is Halloween. Yeah, right. Tesla's having fun. does. They have that max mode in there now. Okay. So have you heard about that? didn't do that on purpose, but it, it, it, it was kind of, that is kind of

that showed up on the right front off the right front fender just for a second. It disappeared. So we're like, what was that?

as

Wes Castelhano (16:42.293)
Like, so babe, are we moving or?

A glitch in the heart.

mean Tesla's also like, you know, there's how many. He does. They have that max mode in there now. Okay. Have you heard about.

I didn't do that on purpose, it was kind of...

That is kind of see like that's a cool coincidence. Yeah, like out of all times to do it like going home at night

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (17:01.036)
See, like, that's a cool coincidence. Yeah. Like out of all times to do it, like going home at night in a garage. Have you ever been really scared in a movie that was... I would say, well, outside of being a little kid, I don't think counts because everything is scary. Yeah. So I try to go by above 16. I would say disturbed. It still goes to the exorcist. yeah.

Have you ever been really scared in a movie that was...

I would say, well outside of being a little kid, I don't think counts because everything is scary. So I try to go by...

above 16.

I would say disturbed. It still goes to the exorcist. Like there's yeah, there's I mean, there's I love the 80s gore ones that are just so ridiculous that it's actually they're actually kind of fun to watch. then all these people are saying like the movies like Midsommar or Hereditary. I'm not scared. Like I don't that's not I don't understand why people say it's like the best horror film. Like we just watch the movie weapons. Okay, it was.

riverside dean castelhano wes (17:27.597)
We have Apti, I'm with you.

Like there's you got a tie. I'm with you. Yeah, there's I mean there's I love the 80s gore ones They're just so ridiculous that it's actually they're actually kind of fun to watch But then all these people are saying like the movies like Midsommar or hereditary I'm not scared like I don't that's not I don't understand why people say it's like the best horror film Like we just watch the movie weapons. Mm-hmm Okay, it was yeah, it's kind of like it's more about like how psychological thrillers are more

Yeah, it's kind of like it's more about like how psychological thrillers are more scary

scary. Hitchcock has this great definition of like suspense. Yeah. It your mind do it. Yeah. It invokes emotion. So, I think he was trying to describe what's the difference between horror and suspense. So suspense to me, the best susp- well, by the way, what it, which the, what's the movie, just the exorcist that that was

Hitchcock has this great definition of like suspense. Yeah, it invokes emotion. I think he was trying to describe what's the difference between horror and suspense. So suspense to me, the best susp- well, by the way, what's the movie? Just The Exorcist? That was...

Wes Castelhano (18:03.083)
Yeah, it your mind do it.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (18:25.422)
I don't know what you call that. So, but just that's suspenseful. I was like, you really don't know what the yeah, it was what, was going to go next? Like how, cause you know that, you know, you hit like an hour in a movie. So you know, that's 90 minutes. You're like, how are we going to tie this all together? Like what's the next? Yeah. Because what's her name? Linda Blair, Linda Blair. mean, all the shit that happened on the set. I just heard like, uh, when they were doing the back and forth,

I don't know what you call it. It's just that suspenseful. You really don't know what the.

So funny.

Wes Castelhano (18:32.045)
Yeah, it was what what was gonna go next like how because you know that you know you hit like an hour in a movie So, know, that's 90 minutes. You're like how are we Tie this all together like what's the next? Yeah, because what's her name Linda Blair Linda Blair. I mean all the shit that happened on the set I just heard like when they were doing the back and forth. Mm-hmm when she was going she actually like fractured her spine

When she was going she actually like fractured her spine. Oh, geez, they were pulling so hard. Oh, yeah Yeah, so like this time. Yeah, and then but like when I saw it I was in heads and pea soup and then then the the cross masturbation Yeah, oh, sorry, but like I was just I'm going oh Man, that's f'd up like well the so, you know, your mom would not go in the attic ever Yeah ever ever she never went in and out. She still can't hear the word Reagan

geez. Because they were pulling so hard. yeah. Yeah. So like, yeah. And then, but like when I saw it, I was... And then the cross masturbation. Yeah. So, sorry. But like, was just, I'm going, man, that's f'ed up.

heads and Pissus.

riverside dean castelhano wes (19:14.893)
Well, the so you know your mom would not go in the attic ever. Ever. She never went in and out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, if you you can. Punk her but.

Yeah. Ever. She still can't hear the word Reagan. It's a journey. did. Yeah, we did the, we had her little Amazon thing and we hacked it. no. So from what we were in the other room. Yeah.

Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you, you can turn it, turn it, punk her. did it by the way. Yeah. We did the, we had her little Amazon thing and we hacked it. no. So from what we were in the other room. yeah. Yeah. That's easy. Yeah. Well, she's the one that did take you to London. Yeah. Yeah. her. Yeah. So she was like, cause we're like at the other room, we're like, right. And she's like, no, Would you leave the house? Would you move out?

yeah. He's a real. Yeah. Well, she's the one that did take it along.

Yeah, no, yeah. her. Yeah. So she was like, because we're like in the other room, we're like, right. And she's like, no,

riverside dean castelhano wes (19:49.351)
So would you leave the house? you move out?

Like Eddie Murphy would say it's like get out too bad. We can't get out of here. Yeah out here. Um, I was okay. I would what I would white people of staying. Yeah white people do stay they're like, yeah They like want to figure this stuff out. Yeah, and black people are like too bad. We can't stay. See you guys later. Yeah So and Trey Trey has confirmed that for me too. He's like, yeah, he was like, yeah, fuck that dude. Yeah, cancel my lease Yeah, so I guess coming from a real estate perspective

Like Eddie Murphy would say it's like get out too bad. We can't get out of here. Yeah, white people do stay they're like, yeah, they like want to figure this stuff out. Yeah, black people are like yeah too bad We can't stay see you guys later. Yeah And trade trade has confirmed that for me too. He's like, yeah, he was like, yeah fuck that dude. Yeah Yeah, so I guess coming from a real estate perspective

cancel my lease

Wes Castelhano (20:23.085)
I would just try to flip it.

I just I would just try to flip it. Uh-huh. Like come on. on. Come on. Yeah. Hey listen either I would try to fire like just either get it off my hands or if there was Or flip the script flip this there's some weirdo out there that wants a whole house. Yeah. Yeah, there's plenty of that's awesome So there's like like I said, if you're gonna be a serial killer, have to be rich Understand you know, it's It's cuz like how they live a double life

huh. Like, come on, come on, come on.

Yeah. Hey, listen, either I would try to fire, like just either get it off my hands or if there was

Or flip the script. There's some weirdo out there that wants a haunted house.

Wes Castelhano (20:37.815)
put this

Yeah, there's plenty of that's awesome. So there's like I said, if you're going to be a serial killer, have to be rich. You know, it's because like how they live a double life. So there's a lot of weird people with a lot of money. OK, so.

Understand

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (20:51.616)
So there's a lot of weird people with a lot of money. Okay. So, all right, we're going to give that. So if you have a haunted house, advertise it in high end, publications websites. All right. We got that. Okay. So that goes back to, so the Adolphus Adolphus was interesting to me for a couple reasons. One, one is beautiful. Yeah. And two, that it had a kind of a cultural

We're going to give that so if you have a haunted house, advertise it in high end publications, websites. right.

Okay, so that goes back to so get off.

The Adolphus was interesting to me for a couple reasons. yeah, and two, it had a kind of a cultural, was friendly to blacks and, know, in the Green Book. Yeah, and everybody knows what the Green Book is, the place where African Americans are safe. There's a movie.

One, it's beautiful.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (21:18.382)
It had a it was friendly to blacks and you know, it was a safe place in the green book in the green book Yeah, and everybody knows what the green book is the place where african-americans traveled in the south were safe to stay. Yeah There's a movie. Yeah Viggo Mortison But yeah, so I didn't realize that the co-founder of anhyzer bush built it Yeah, no, that was a surprise to me, too. And then everybody from

It was a safe place in the green book.

Wes Castelhano (21:31.607)
traveled in the south to stay. Yeah. Vigo Mortison. But yeah, so I didn't realize that the co-founder of Anheuser-Busch built it.

Yeah, no, that was a surprise to me too.

And then everybody from Queen Elizabeth to Prince Philip, or G Bob Hope, Jack Benny all stayed there. so this was like ultimate luxury fifth Avenue. Yeah. And this kind of, from what I was reading was making Dallas, downtown Dallas, especially no longer a frontier stop. So like the building of downtown. Yeah. So the downtown starts building a skyline and there people like with all the railroad crossings.

Queen Elizabeth to Prince Philip, Warren G. Bob Hope, Jack Benny, all stayed there. So this was like ultimate luxury Fifth Avenue. And this kind of, from what I was reading, was making Dallas, downtown Dallas especially, no longer a frontier stop. interesting. So the building of could hang out here. Yeah, so the downtown starts building a skyline. And people were like, with all the railroad crossings. Well, to your point,

and-

riverside dean castelhano wes (22:07.594)
hang out here.

riverside dean castelhano wes (22:14.679)
Well, to your point, it was in that era of early industrial revolution, early 20th century late 1912.

It was in that era. Yeah. Of early industrial revolution, right? Early 20th century, late night, late 19th century. there's been, there was 1912. There has been several. So it's basically the elevator you gotta be afraid of. Okay. So there was one death, two weeks after opening a young waiter fell three floors. He just opened the door to open. He fell down the shaft and then another boy, a boy tried to jump.

Yeah.

Wes Castelhano (22:24.669)
So there's been there was so there's been several so it's basically the elevator you got to be afraid of so there was one death Two weeks after opening a young waiter fell three floors He just opened the door open he fell down the chef and then another boy boy tried to jump into it and like jumped was it so it

into it and like jumped. So an elevator boy misjudged a jump and fell a hundred feet. And that was in 1917. So 1912, 1917. And then they were good. And then there was three, there was two guys moving stage equipment and they, one guy looks back. It was like, is the elevator there? Guy's like, Oh yeah, totally. Then he goes, goes forward and the elevator moved and he goes down.

So an elevator boy misjudged a jump and fell a hundred feet. Yikes. And that was in 1917. So 1912, 1917. And then they were good. And then there was three, there was two guys moving stage equipment and they, one guy looks back. It was like, is the elevator there? Guys like, Oh yeah, totally. Then he goes, it goes forward and the elevator moved and he goes down. Then you have the chef, a young cook.

Then you have the chef, uh, a young cook. went to go see if the shaft was coming. The elevator was coming down and he went stuck his head in. And got home. So what is that Otis, the elevator? I'd be, yeah. So wonder, I wonder how many times they were called. Well, they have the ghostly. Yeah. The ghostly bride is the other big one. So that was a 1935, a young bride abandoned by her groom, reportedly hanged herself above the altar on the 19th floor.

He went to go see if the shaft was coming. The elevator was coming down and he went stuck his head in. Yeah.

riverside dean castelhano wes (23:25.613)
So what is that Otis the elevator I'd be I wonder how many times they were

Yeah, so.

Well, they have the ghostly. Yeah, the ghostly bride is the other big one. So that was a 1935, a young bride abandoned by her groom, reportedly hanged herself above the altar on the 19th floor. Today, guests and staff report to hear sobs, footsteps and eerie whispers with occasional sightings of her apparition, still wandering the halls in her wedding dress. Woohoo. Yeah.

Today, guests and staff report to hear Sobs footsteps and eerie whispers with occasional sightings of her apparition still wandering the halls in her wedding dress. Woohoo. Yeah. Hey, so that's a really good point. There's a really good movie and I can't remember the name of it about how you get stuck until you can pass on. Right. So you got to think somebody's got to like help her. Marry her. Move on. Yeah. Well, like, yeah. Marry her. That's a one. Or you got to kill somebody.

Hey, so that's a really good point. There's a really good movie, and I can't remember the name of it, about how you get stuck until you can pass on.

riverside dean castelhano wes (24:07.575)
think somebody's gotta like help her.

barrier move on yeah well like oh yeah marry yeah or you got to kill somebody so they can get together I don't know

third one

they can get together. I don't know. don't know. in with a solution. Yeah. That's kind of funny. Then let's move to the... this actually, Nick and Sam's was interesting because that actually was a funeral home. They call it a morgue. I'm going to just say it's a funeral home. Maybe there were. And it's... It was fancy. Yeah. And it still is. And there was just got a write-up. It was last year when I first heard about the haunting of it. And it's

in with a solution. That's kind of funny. Then let's move to the

Wes Castelhano (24:26.893)
So this actually Nick and Sam's was interesting because that actually was a

funeral home. call it a morgue. I'm going to just say it's a funeral home. they. So it was fancy.

And it's, yeah, and it still is. And there was just got a write-up. It was last year when I first heard about the haunting of it and it's still very prevalent. And when I saw the inside, was like, yeah, I

still very prevalent. And when I saw the inside, was like, yeah, I can see that there's a room in the way back. That's like the walls are black. I mean, I get it. It creates, it just gives you vibes, man. Like there were more dead bodies in that place. Right. So I feel like you're predisposed, like you're psychologically going to go, all right, the walls are black. Okay. I know this used to be a morgue. So now like your, your heart rates a little bit. Oh, I hear what you're saying. Yeah. Not it's a setup.

There's a room in the way back that's like the walls are black. I mean I get

Wes Castelhano (24:54.829)
It creates it just gives you vibes man like there were more

more dead bodies in that place.

Right, so I feel like you're predisposed like you're psychologically gonna go. All right, the walls are black. Okay, I know this used to be a morgue. So now like your your heart rates a little bit.

I hear what you're saying. Yeah, it's a setup in a way.

No. Yeah, it's like, logically, now you're just going to interpret anything as opposed to if you just kind of kind of like a water, like if you have two different types of water, you just don't take the labels off. Do you really taste the difference? Well,

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (25:15.242)
in a way. Yeah, it's like logically now you're just going to interpret anything as opposed to if I, just kind of kind like a water, like if you have two different types of water and you just don't take the labels off, do you really taste the difference? Well, you know, from a business standpoint, it hasn't, it hasn't stopped Nick and Sam's from just killing it. Yeah. That's what going to say. It's fancy. It's nice. People regardless still want to go there. It's we, we had our

You know, from a business standpoint, hasn't stopped Nick and Sam's from

No, that's what it was telling it. Yeah, that's what gonna say. It's fancy. It's nice. People regardless still want to go there.

We had our Christmas dinner there for Grand Mortgage. We had a reservation. It was early December and we could barely hear ourselves. It was a wonderful meal. had a great time, but man.

Christmas dinner there for grand mortgage. Yeah. We had a reservation. It was early December and we could barely hear ourselves. It was a wonderful meal. had a great time, but man, was like York City. mean, holy smoke. So it's like, so where is it? So we, so my research at the top of the hill. so it moved there. Okay. So you, so I think, I think, I don't know.

Wes Castelhano (25:48.001)
Yeah.

Wes Castelhano (25:59.041)
like New York City.

I mean, holy smokes.

So where is it? my research...

the top of the hill. So it moved there. I think I don't know. But yeah, if that says West End, guess it was.

But yeah, if that says West End, guess it was. I tried to like triple check my sources, so I could be wrong. But but so the the one the the one that we all went to in the West End was the the one in New York that Bernays was at. What's this? yeah. Okay. What? Palm the palm. yeah. With the onion streaks. Another shout out to Phil. Yeah.

Wes Castelhano (26:16.169)
I try to like triple check my sources so I could be

But so the one that we all went to in the West End was the one in New York that Al Bernays was at.

yeah, okay, uh-oh yeah

palm with the onion streaks. shout out to Phil.

Yeah.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (26:42.638)
onion strings. Half and half is what it was called potato chips and onion rings. They were halfway there. Well, it was a combo. was like this mountain. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. That whole West end that that could qualify as it's old industrial. I'm sure a lot of people had bad accidents there or, or you talk about elevator shaft. I want to do a quick elevator sidebar. Yeah.

onion strings. Half and half is what it was called, potato chips and onion.

Really? They were halfway there.

Well, it was a combo. It was like this.

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

riverside dean castelhano wes (26:55.757)
That whole West End that could qualify as it's old industrial, I'm sure a lot of people had bad accidents there or you talk about elevator shafts. I wanna do a quick elevator sidebar. So when people talk about self-driving cars, everybody says, oh, people are gonna die, it's dangerous. Uncle John, firefighter, rescue guy, first responder says that people...

yeah.

Wes Castelhano (27:11.17)
Yeah.

So when people talk about self-driving cars, everybody says, Oh, people are going to die. It's dangerous. Uncle John firefighter rescue guy. First responder says that people, injuries and deaths and elevators were way more when they had elevator operators before elevators became human. Yeah. So now that they run themselves, nobody gets her.

Injuries and deaths and elevators were way more when they had elevator operators before elevators became Yeah, so now that they run themselves Nobody gets her

Cuban Air

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (27:40.878)
No, that's what that's what some guys said only going up and down but computers only do what you tell them to do Yeah until that's where all nuclear disasters human error. Yeah, so Shout out uncle johnny boy driving. Let's do it. Yeah, I I don't know. I just would you drive a self-driving car? I if I want to go not driving at all. I'm gonna be like in the backseat relax. Okay So yeah, if i'm behind the wheel, I want some sort of

No, that's what that's what some guys said You know is only do what you tell them to do. Yeah until that's where all nuclear disasters human error

Only going up and down, but...

riverside dean castelhano wes (27:52.255)
Yeah, shout out. Driving, let's do it. Would you drive a self-driving?

Hey Uncle Johnny boy. Yeah, I don't know I just

If I want to go not driving at all, I'm gonna be like in the backseat relax. Yeah, if I'm behind the wheel I want some sort of

So somebody else could self-drive it if they're paying attention.

So somebody else could self drive it if they're paying attention. Yeah, I don't know until the tech gets better. Yeah, but I think you're going to start building smart cities. Yeah, know where they're going to have charging at stoplights. Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's that's already happening. Like the smart highways, things like that. So there was even talks about I don't know if they were this is before like Tesla became Tesla, but they were talking about building highways with like magnets to help you. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like

Wes Castelhano (28:14.189)
Yeah, I don't know until the tech gets better. Yeah, but I think you're gonna start building smart cities Yeah, you know where they're gonna have charging at stoplights Yeah, that's that's already happening like they smart highways things like that where so there was even talks about I don't know if they were this is before like Tesla became Tesla But they were talking about building highways with like magnets to help you. Oh, yeah. Yeah like almost yeah, so almost to kind of like control the flow

my good.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (28:39.278)
almost yeah, so almost to kind of like control the flow the third wheel Yeah, so you could have third you're gonna have charging. Yeah, you're gonna have chargers while you stop you're gonna have smart highways same thing Wow, so all that's All that is the tech is there. It's just scale like generation. Yeah, so how about favorite or most compelling? Movie character other than Linda Blair

The third week.

Yeah, so you could have third you're gonna charge it. Yeah, you're gonna have chargers while you stop you're gonna have smart highways same thing Wow, so all that's all that is the tech is there it's just scale

Electric Generation. Yeah. So how about favorite or most compelling movie character other than Linda Blair? Is there any memorable? Are you like a Frankenstein guy or what was that that that Kiefer Sutherland?

Is there any memorable? you like a Frankenstein guy or what was that? That that keifer Sutherland? lost boys. Yeah. Yeah. Love lost boys. was really cool. Yeah. I almost got goosebumps thinking about it. So that was, they were vampires. they were vampires. Yeah. That was really Corey Feldman. And yeah, that was, that was kind like a pre brat pack. I think, I think I probably want to go back and it's, it's great. I would say movie wise, I would say the

Wes Castelhano (29:15.191)
Blossom boys? Yeah. Yeah, I the last.

That was really cool. Yeah, I almost got goosebumps thinking about it. that was it. They were a vampire.

Yeah, there were vampires. Yeah, that was Corey Feldman. And yeah, that was that was kind like a pre-brat pack.

I think I probably want to go back and.

It's great. I would say movie wise, I would say the guy that I thought would be the scariest was Freddy Krueger. Yeah. Well, not only because of the look, but like you got to go to sleep. And that's why you die. kills you. Yeah. Johnny Depp's first movie.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (29:36.778)
The guy that I thought would be the scariest was Freddy Krueger. Yeah. Well, not only because he looked, but like you gotta go to sleep and that's why you die. kills you in your dreams. Johnny Depp's first movie. Well, the, was the, mannequin, what was that? The little Freddy. Chucky. Chucky. Yeah. Child's play. He, he, he just creeps me out. Yeah. I can't even look at it. The original one I told, I'm totally with you. And then they kind of like,

Well, was the Mannequin, what was that? Like, Lill Freddie?

Oh, Chuckie? Yeah, Child's Play. Yeah. The original one, I'm totally with you. And then they kind of like made it little bit too campy. I would say the 80s was really interesting. And it was kind of going off the grindhouse style back in the 70s of that exploitation, over the top Nazi werewolves or whatever. But I love when Quentin Tarantino

Now man, he just creeps me.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (30:05.703)
made a little bit too campy. would say like the eighties was really interesting and it was kind of going off the grindhouse style back in the seventies of that exploitation, Yeah. Over the top Nazi werewolves or whatever you, but I love when Quentin Tarantino revitalized the grindhouse for planet terror and death proof, but it's all, you know, hot girls, fast cars over the top, which kind of made horror fun.

Revitalized the grindhouse for Planet Terror and death proof, but this is all you know hot girls Fast cars. Yeah over the top which kind of made horror fun but I would say

But I would say, yeah, there were. So those things like chainsaw massacre and all that. I think Texas Chainsaw was, I would say that there's something about, oh, House of a Thousand Corpses, Rob Zombie. Oh no, never heard of that. Oh man. So basically The Devil's Rejects. So it's like a three part series. So you have House of a Thousand Corpses, Devil's Rejects, and Three from Hell, and they're like a serial killer family. Oh nice.

So those things like chainsaw mass current.

I Texas Chainsaw was, I would say that's, there's something about, House of a Thousand Corpses, Rob Zombie. no. man. So basically the Devils Rejects. So it's like a three part series. So you have House of a Thousand Corpses, Devils Rejects, and Three from Hell, and they're like a serial killer family. yeah, so the first one is like they get, guys get stuck, of four people.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (31:04.741)
Yeah, so the first one is like they get guys get stuck. Yeah fork people Yeah, and then it's of course is Rob Zombie. So it's this over the top, but it's like really twisted but they're like really good at the same time so they kind of became the You know the three from hell was there it's awesome. So were you when you were a kid? did the guy shovel in his walk and in the the Kevin the

And then it's of course, it's Rob Zombie. So it's this over the top, but it's like really twisted, but they're like really good at the same time. So they kind of became the, you know, the three from hell. This is there. It's awesome.

So when you were a kid, did the guy shovel in his walk and in the Kevin, the...

the dude from Home Alone? Home Alone. Yeah, because... Let's see, you put the guy in the suburbs and he's shoveling snow in a black coat. Yeah. You know, and he doesn't talk to anybody. good. Yeah.

the dude from Home Alone? Home Alone. Yeah, because he was that kind of... Let's see, you put the guy in the suburbs and he's shoveling snow in a black coat. Yeah. You know, and he doesn't talk to anybody. good. That was really good. And then we did. Then we figure out he's like the nice guy, just a lonely old... Just like the pigeon lady in second one. Yeah. He's just like, yeah, just miss the daughter. Yeah. Wait for her to come home. That's what that's what I think where Hitchcock's talking about suspense. Right. Like you, the director.

riverside dean castelhano wes (31:36.289)
He was that kind of

riverside dean castelhano wes (31:44.545)
That was really good. And then we did, then we figure out he's a lonely old.

like the nice guy just like the pigeon lady in second one yeah he's just like yeah just miss the daughter yeah wait for her to come home

That's what I think where Hitchcock's talking about, Like you, the director, is that John Nickel?

Is that John nickel? it was a landis. No, it was not. It was, it's going to bother me. John, cause he did Ferris Bueller. did all the big ones. Um, landis it's not landis. Somebody's yelling at me right now going like, that's all right. So the, the one that though, that gives me a little John Hughes, Hughes. Shout out. That's by the way, that none of that small business that's

It was a land no it was it's gonna bother me John cuz he did Ferris Bueller He did all the big ones. No, land is Somebody's yelling at me right now going like

riverside dean castelhano wes (32:14.529)
Landis? That's not...

riverside dean castelhano wes (32:22.541)
That's all right. So the one though that gives me a little... That's, by the way, none of that's small business. That's huge. I wonder what the largest grossing... And we're using horror suspense, so our boy... Kind of started...

John Hughes.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (32:33.117)
Huge, wonder what the largest grossing and we're using horror suspense. So our boy, so Hitchcock kind of started, he, was the master at letting your mind. Yeah, that's suspense. So like he didn't have to show you absolutely stabbing cause your mind created like a psycho. Yes. Cause you knew something was going to happen, but you didn't need to see the knife go in. You saw the blood. saw the, you saw the, that was awesome.

So hitch he was the master at letting your mind. Yeah. So like he didn't have to show you the stabbing because your mind created like a psycho. Yes. Because you knew something was going to happen, but you didn't need to see the knife go in. You saw the, you saw the board after. Yeah. So I didn't like the birds though. thought it was kind of mean. I think there's just, I think

That's suspense.

absolute

riverside dean castelhano wes (32:59.341)
You saw the blood. It was awesome.

before and after. So I didn't like the birds though. thought it was kind of me either. That was overdone. I think there's just, I think anything that's the supernatural ones, not scary. Yeah. It's interesting story. when you come to what humans are capable of, yeah. Cause it's like, Hey, what's the one where he's in the house? Like she calls the police. the like voyeurs. Well, and, and well, the punchline is

there that was overdone

anything that's the supernatural ones not scary yeah it's an interesting story but when you come to what humans are capable of yeah because it's like hey

Mm-hmm.

riverside dean castelhano wes (33:22.081)
dial in for what's the one where he's in the house like she calls the police

Oh, the like voyeur or something?

Well, and well, the punchline is, ma'am, we've traced the.

Ma'am, we've traced the phone call. Oh, there's like somebody, it's coming from inside your house. get goosebumps just saying it. That's brilliant. Yeah, somebody said, what's the scary, I'm like stalkers. was like, yeah, those. Or you're not sure if they're watching over you. Is it a guardian angel or somebody that's there to harm you? I got Matt one time. I really had to commit to this one.

There's like somebody, it's coming from inside. And it, that's what, what creeps me out. Somebody said, what's the scary, I'm like stalkers. was like, yeah.

riverside dean castelhano wes (33:36.966)
That's brilliant

riverside dean castelhano wes (33:47.757)
Or you're not sure if they're watching over you? Is it a guardian angel?

But again, Oh, it's so I got, I got Matt one time. I really had to commit to this one. We were coming back from Hilton head, going back to Wilmington and we stopped at USC. It was right after Thanksgiving and we're saying everybody Matt Rand's house. So, uh, but he, he, was in bed when his growth, his girlfriend and him were laying down. So I got up early and they were laying next to each other and I kind of like,

We were coming back from Hilton Head, going back to Wilmington and we stopped at USC. It was right after Thanksgiving. And we're staying at everybody Matt Rand's house. So, uh, but he, he, he was in bed when his girl, his girlfriend and him were laying down. I got up early and they were laying next to each other and I kind of like snuck into bed and I laid there for like a good 30 minutes.

snuck into bed and I laid there for like a good 30 minutes with me like with my head on my arm. Yeah. And it's really woke up. like, good. You're awake. Dude, I was, did you know how long that was so much commitment for me to to waste it. But it was totally worth it. But yeah.

with me, like with my head on my arm. Yeah. And it's certainly welcome. Like, Oh good. You're awake. Dude, I was, you know how long that was so much commitment for me just to waste it. But it was totally worth it. yeah. right. So I'm gonna tell one story. They asked one, the last question. So the story is remember the guy in Richardson with the chainsaw. Well, no.

riverside dean castelhano wes (34:46.037)
Alright, so one story then ask one the last question. So the story is remember the guy in Richardson? Well, no, yes, and you could tell that one but the guy that laid under the leaves?

with the chainsaw.

Yes. And you could tell that one, but the guy that laid under the leaves. yeah. one was good. Really good. There was never forget. I'll never forget. So you're walking up the concrete walk to the front door. Right. And I think maybe even they left the front door open. It was very inviting. Right. And it's fall and there's leaves on the ground. So yeah, like why wouldn't there? There's this blanket. I mean, it looks, just looks like a pile of leaves.

Yeah, that one was good. Really? There was. I'll never forget.

You're walking up the concrete walk to the front door and I think maybe even they left the front door open. It was very inviting. Right. And it's fall and there's leaves on the ground. There's this blanket. I mean it looks just looks like a pile of leaves and as you're about four or five six feet from the house a hand comes out from under the leaves and grabs you.

Wes Castelhano (35:11.17)
Right.

Wes Castelhano (35:19.201)
Yeah, like one winter.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (35:26.191)
And as you're about four or five, six feet from the house, a hand comes out from under the leaves and grabs your ankle. don't do that. Dude. was a... There was one, I remember right across from Richville and Park where Doug, shout out to Doug and Mrs. Riley, on their block, there, remember, so you would, they had some sort of trip laser. So as soon as you cross the threshold walking up. Yeah.

Yeah, you don't see that yet. Dude! That was... Yeah. There was one, I remember right across from Richville and Park, where Doug, shout out to Doug and Mrs. Riley, on their block, I remember, so they had some sort of trip laser. So as soon as you cross the threshold walking up, fog started forming. this was awesome. And this was like in the late 90s. And then like people...

fog started forming. my God. this was awesome. And this was like in the late nineties. And then like people came out from the ground. Like you didn't, I don't know how they did it. It was, there was pretty, there was, but the guy that scared me because he fully committed real chainsaw with just no chain on it. But he, we didn't know that, but he came and chased us like down. Yeah. I remember he like came and chased us down half a block or something. So that's the question. What's the most

came out from the ground. you didn't, I don't know how they did it. It was just a pretty, there was, then the, the guy that scared me because he fully committed real chainsaw with just no chain on it. But he, we didn't know that, but he came and chased us like down. Yeah. I remember he like came and chased us down half a block or something.

So that's the question. What's the most frightened?

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (36:25.117)
Frightened that's the well, there's no yeah. Yeah, so that's real life. That's real life What about in the movies is that it's the poltergeist? I mean it's the Exorcist I would just say like more just like Disturbed not like scared like I there was something where I'm like I have to go watch something happy afterwards Take the antidote. Yeah, just the body in point. I but the thing is now it's but it's been so parodied

That's the pro- well, there's no- yeah. That's real life.

So that's real. What about in the movies? It's the poltergeist? mean, it's the exorcist.

I would just say like more just like disturbed not like scared like I was something where I'm like I have to go watch something happy afterwards Yeah, just the body in point But the thing is now it's just but it's been so parodied. Yeah, and so so I just But like when I saw the original because it was so serious and I think that's what and there was nothing like it Yeah, you know, I think that's where I just still go damn,

Take the antidote.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (36:53.609)
Yeah. And so, so I just, but like when I saw the original, cause it was so serious and I think that's what, and there was nothing like it. You know, I think that's where I just still go, damn dude. And when you try to explain it to somebody like, Oh, and there's this time she took the crowd and then she did this and this. And you're like, what movie did you just watch? And you're like, Oh, this is all happening. Like, yeah, it was in a 90 minute movie. Yeah, man. So, uh,

And when you try to explain it to somebody like there's this time she took the crowd then she did this this you're like What movie did you just watch you're like? it's all happening like yeah, it was in a 90-minute movie

We have and so good stuff. yeah, the the subject so

Well, good stuff. So yeah, this was kind of fun. Yeah. The, uh, the subject. the quick little fact that you didn't know. So we're talking and we kind of going back to the, uh, about if something happens, like a haunted property and all that. according to Texas law from my research and I could be wrong, correct me if I'm wrong in the comments, but, uh, here we go. You do not have

Yeah, this was kind of fun.

Wes Castelhano (37:26.285)
Also, but the quick little fact that you didn't know and I had so we're talking and we're kind of going back to the About if something happens like a haunted property and all that so according to Texas law from my research and I could be wrong correct me if I'm wrong in the comments, but Here we go, do not have to do that. Where did I have it? I guess somewhere

to do it. Where did I have it? I guess somewhere.

riverside 1031 oct 31, 2025 005 wes (37:58.547)
So basically, you like, if like a murder happens, okay, yeah, here we go. Texas law doesn't require sellers to disclose deaths, murders, or paranormal activity unless it affects the property's physical condition. The rationale is practical. The law focuses on tangible defects like mold, structural, or electrical. Historical events, notoriety, or ghost stories are considered non-material.

So basically, you like, if like a murder happens, okay, yeah, here we go. Texas law doesn't require sellers to disclose deaths, murders, or paranormal activity unless it affects the property's physical condition. The rationale is practical. The law focuses on tangible defects like mold, structural, or electrical. Historical events, notoriety, or ghost stories are considered non-material.

avoiding endless liability while recognizing older cities inevitably with tragic histories. Got it. Interesting. So I don't know if you could get it insured, but yeah. No, hear you. So I think if it's, yeah, if it's a murder, yeah. But like if somebody died in the house, you can't, it's bound to happen. I think it's a, it's a preference though. It's, it's, there's probably 80 % of the population that would say, okay. And, but the 20 % that would want to know it.

avoiding endless liability while recognizing older cities inevitably with tragic histories. it. So I don't know if you could get it insured, but yeah. So I think if it's, yeah, if it's a murder. Yeah. But like if somebody died in the house, you can't, it's bound to happen.

Interesting.

riverside dean castelhano wes (38:42.347)
I think it's a preference though. There's probably 80 % of the population that would say okay, but the 20 % that would want to know it, with no.

Yeah, I would say like it's worth. No. Yeah. I would say like, you don't have the realtor. I'll kind of meet them halfway. Like you don't have to tell me upfront, but if I ask you got to, I think that's, I think that's pretty fair. Why didn't you tell? Well, you didn't ask. Well that, okay. That's on me. All right. So we were going to say that Halloween is not small business. It's a big business, but always a good story in small neighborhoods. it's local.

Yeah, I would say like, yeah, I would say like, you don't have the reals. You're I'll kind of meet them halfway. Like you don't have to tell me upfront, but if I ask you got to, I think that's, think that's pretty fair. Why didn't you tell? Well, you didn't ask. Well that, okay. That's on me. All right.

So we're going to say that Halloween is not small business.

It's a big, but always a good story in the small neighborhood.

riverside dean castelhano wes (39:23.271)
And it's local. Correct. mean, your neighbor. I've heard neighborhoods that would give away 3000 pieces of candy in this era. I didn't think anybody gave candy away anymore. I thought it was like about house parties and trunk parties and at school and bars and clubs. But it is it still exists. Right. Yeah. Treating still

Correct. mean, your neighbor, I've heard neighborhoods that would give away 3000 pieces of candy in this era. Right. I didn't think anybody gave candy away anymore. I thought it was like about house parties and trunk parties and at school and bars and clubs, but it is, it still exists, right? Yeah.

Right.

Wes Castelhano (39:49.005)
And that's where it should be man because it was fun Yeah, like that way it was so much fun because it was like we got to hit early We got you mapped out where you were going. Yep. I remember it's like we gotta go hit these houses cuz they like after You live the same spot. You're like, that's one that's those. Yeah, you've you certain houses. You're like, no don't go there

And that's where it should be, man. Cause it was fun. Like that way it was so much fun. Cause it was like, got to hit early. You got it. You mapped out where you were going. I remember it was like, we got to go hit these houses. they like after you live in the same spot, you're like, Oh, that's good. Yeah. good, you ask certain houses. You're like, no, go there. Charlie Brown, great pumpkin. I got the, the, you know, one of my go-to sayings about getting

Charlie Brown, Great Pumpkin. got the, you know, one of my go-to sayings about getting short changed with anything is I got a rock. when, when Snoop, when they all went to the house, you know, it would be like, I got an apple and Linus was like, I got a candy bar. And then Charlie Brown be like, a rock. So anyway,

short changed with anything is I got a rock. when, when Snoop, when they all went to the house, right? You know, it would be like Lucy, like I got an apple and Linus was like, I got a candy bar. And then Charlie Brown be like, wow, got a rock. So anyway, I hope you don't get any rocks. I you some, Henry's you may not even know what an Henry is. just go have a good time tomorrow night. It's Halloween on a Friday night.

I hope you don't get any rocks. I you some O'Henrys. You may not even know what an O'Henry is.

Wes Castelhano (40:44.193)
or just go have a good time tomorrow night. It's Halloween on a Friday night.

Be kind when you scare your friends

Be kind when you scare your friends. Yeah, and the cries just tell him like hey, was a joke Yeah, or something all right. I was fun. idea. All right. Thanks. I love you. Bye cool

Yeah, and if the kid cries, just tell him like, hey, it was a joke.

Yeah, or something. All right. This was fun. idea. Bye. Yeah, that worked. turned out.

Wes Castelhano (40:59.435)
Alright, thanks. Alright, love you.

riverside dean castelhano wes (41:10.221)
Yeah

Yeah.

All right,

Alright man, I'm gonna jump back.

riverside dean castelhano wes (41:23.236)
Did you see? So I'll be with Daniel tomorrow. They want to introduce you to this guy, Sean Stone. He's a really cool dude.

with Daniel tomorrow yeah they want to introduce you to this guy Shawn Stone he's a really cool dude