UFC Throne Settled, Now Crawford vs Canelo Awaits |8/14/25

TREY BALLARD (00:00.078)
But do you turn to motherfucking Hiawaska and all this other shit? No, you don't. That's not what you turn to.

I normally describe. Well-

Maybe he should have did that then. Cause whatever the fuck he's doing now, I look, he might as well be on crack.

I normally just pretend that I have to go pee and be like, I'll be right back.

TREY BALLARD (00:20.694)
What he's doing now, I'm just like

Dude, I saw this interview with Danica Patrick and she like touched on it and I was just like, my God, is this guy actually a psychopath? And Olivia Munn.

See I'm not playing a rod Listen, man, you better figure it out cuz I was a fan of yours. You lost me. You really did you lost the hell I mean, what are you? are you on? Are you are you on that Lamar autumn rap? Hey, get off this shit Just telling you better get out you better get off that shit

I can hear.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (00:57.454)
Can hear me in your headphone?

Me. yeah. I like, I thought I could hear you. man. All right. Shout out to Stone Cold Steve Austin. Right. One of you and these finest. Go mean green. Yeah. What man? Yeah. Listen, people always think, I'm always going to move for the main green, but I'm predicting seven and six this year, by the way, before we do the preview. I just want to give both of the records for my two teams. You and team number one.

Gotcha,

WES CASTELHANO (01:06.028)
What's up, bastard?

TREY BALLARD (01:26.638)
Seven and six bowl win. Let's get it and in Texas you I know what I think man. Come on national champions Hey, listen, all I know is this as long as you go through your navigation arrivals You can lose as many other games you want I don't give a fuck just get into the playoff and go win a national championship But if you lose the OU A or Arkansas, we're gonna have a problem. We have a real serious problem. Fuck all three of

My father's had to give a quick shout out.

No, I was just listening.

Nah, this had to a ****. It's two weeks out, bro. I'm just, you know, it's getting more and more. I'm gonna be on the East Coast. I'm like, you know, we're for the run this **** up, man. What they talking about? it's like **** football. I love the ****.

I love culture.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (02:10.569)
ambiance I love the whole thing so much more as like in the sense of like going to a game and like the environment and all this group I should say group but I was born in the Northeast so like I'm not pulling for fucking Seton Hall do you like I pull for the Gamecocks like I'll pull for certain teams but I don't like have like a die-hard team and I wish I did catch in college but so much fun

that didn't unlike I just

TREY BALLARD (02:25.983)
And,

TREY BALLARD (02:32.438)
And we are always always

Clemson like I'm never pulling for Clemson dude. Hey, I have so many friends. I an ex-girlfriend that was diehard Clemson like and

I can't stand it. Hey, talk your shit man. Let him know. your shit. Hey, let him know. I just want to say bro, like anytime I meet someone that grew up in the Northeast or in a region that wasn't as big on football as we are here, I just always, it's just always interesting to me because I'm always like, I wouldn't even think differently.

Like I don't think differently because of that, you know, I mean like I feel like we this unique to our region and that I just want you to Experience that like you know, I mean, you know, I mean not as always I'm like, do you feel about how we feel about football here? they're like, it's like really one of the craziest things I've ever seen

for sure. I totally accept that and understand it. But like, not to say that it's equal or better than Texas football, growing up watching and being at SEC games and being like, and tailgating like Carolina versus, you know, Alabama and stuff like that and like all that.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (03:53.422)
With it it's so much fun to be around dude even if you're not even tell you if you're just at the bars like it's just a scene It's really aggressive see a lot of kids and golf shirts with popped up colors and high khaki shorts just getting Hammered and like tongue-kissing their best friends like it's weird, man

It's crazy. Just nuts.

TREY BALLARD (04:12.366)
Whoa, whoa, that's crazy Like Marcus get over here. Yeah Having been in a fraternity of predominantly white people myself. I can't say that we ever partook in any of that, but I listen

I can't even say soon.

There's been, well when you said popular collars and high cackle shorts, those are the type of people I was rolling with at that point in time. And still do to a little extent, you know what mean? Because we grew out of that outfit, but you know what I mean? Like, hey.

Remember the double? The double colored f-

I'm not see I don't know if I ever saw that Oh, buddy. I know if it ever made it. They don't know we were still in Denton, bro So it was look at out to the Sima Khan chapter and didn't man. I know what it is. They would do the What that was a coastal thing, but we really do pooka shells out here that was just that was a nut shit, but you do pooka shells over here We might fire you up Where you got them from or what you thought that was but we that we just not doing

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (05:00.568)
Pukashell necklace with the double

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (05:16.88)
Plaza man

I don't even know like honestly broke out I don't even know if people if we knew where to get some pookie shells from be Honest with you like we it was like you would see some pookie shell necklaces, but it wasn't enough to wear It was like I like nobody was asking you like a world. Would you get that from? Yeah? They had on

No one was like, bro, is that?

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (05:39.79)
Can you imagine when your buddy is going away on vacation coming back with a Pooka Shaw necklace and you're just like...

You gotta go. Yeah, would you?

What are you guys doing tonight? Ugh, number-

Not hanging out with you bro, we are not kicking it with you bro. You were not invited to the function. You guys don't want to? Cool on that bro. Yeah good on that. Yeah, we are good. We we we are good. We are good

Come over watch those see

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (06:04.448)
It was a thing. So many I never did, but it didn't even like you had like the screws on it. It was.

TREY BALLARD (06:13.998)
I couldn't do that. Nah, but like, I mean, what we got UFC 319 this weekend. Drikas Duplessis and Kamzad Chimeyev, you know what mean? Hey, Drikas trying to defend that belt and Kamzad trying to come take it. So, hey, I'm one of those people. You got to go beat the champ to be the champ. Kamzad is a minus 260 favorite right now.

Mm-hmm.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (06:36.526)
I mean they've been building him up for 10 years now. it's, this is his time. love those types of fighters because he's, he can hit, but he's also just a monster on the ground. And like we were talking about before, mean, if he, I think personally, and I think most people will agree that he's got to win this within three rounds because.

They didn't.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (07:03.416)
People don't know about his motor, hasn't really been tested. So it's gonna be interesting. But again, Drukis just still gets... He still gets so underrated, like people just don't give him his...

They don't give him respect. mean, he the champ right now. That's why I said, look, I know comes as the favorite, but like in my book, in any combat sport, whether it be boxing or MMA is to be the champ. got to beat the champ.

And I think his last three wins were Whitaker, Arasanya, and...Praris.

Yeah, like he's no, they no joke Yeah, he beat he's beating Strickland, Adesanya, Strickland, Whitaker, Daniel Brunson Or Derrick Brunson, I mean Yeah, and finishing them. Yeah, and I, what do you, I think, no, that was just by his

He's beaten three s-

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (07:44.46)
He's doing his thing.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (08:00.524)
finishing them he's not just doing whatever

But he got a he got a KO KO split this is your fight was The first struggle fight was the second was unanimous. Yeah

This was closer, I believe.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (08:14.764)
but Strickland just got suspended for a year because he's a

Psychopath dude, maybe wow, dude. He's got

issues which is not shocking because he's even been on certain interviews where he's like crying about like how he was like abused as a kid and stuff and we're like yeah we we know stuff going on

Right.

TREY BALLARD (08:32.757)
Yeah, like you clearly got you. Yeah, you still wildin bro.

He like beats up YouTubers on it and like sparring, like doesn't even joke around, like he's like hitting them pretty hard. Yeah. And they're like, man, we're here for clicks. And he was like, hey, get in here.

I mean, but I heard some of them dudes do be talking shit though, which I can't be mad at him for that. But the ones that's just in there trying to be hanging out and then do it for the views, yeah, but I have seen some dudes be talking straight shit.

WES CASTELHANO (09:04.174)
You guys miss me yeah, no, I'm just kidding

Yeah.

But they're not like saying a Sean trick and like we could beat your ass. They're just saying like come on. Let's spar and stuff

I'm not to you I've seen some of but some of them don't but I do it but someone like people be talking And I can't yeah, don't find it for whooping ass because they be talking crazy

I have no idea what we're talking about

TREY BALLARD (09:27.278)
Like if I'm talking crazy to comes out and he says alright cool like he's Come see me in In the fucking in the ring and I'm like, alright bet or you know if I'm just talking crazy over there and then I actually go do it Shit if he would my ass and I deserve it

But I still think like he'd take it easy and like like have you ever seen the things where Pereira like messes with guys and stuff and they like ask for leg kicks? He's not hitting them hard. Sean Strickland is like literally like hitting the crap out of these people.

I'm saying are they asking

TREY BALLARD (10:00.482)
Yeah

your ass will that's a different thing

Imagine going home after that and your girl's like hey, babe, like how was work bullshit like I'm gonna. I'm going back to crazy. I'm going back to school. This is terrible

camera that you got me I was talking crazy and yeah and you see why I got this black guy and all this other stuff going on.

He was saying really prejudiced things to me while he was just punching me in my temple.

WES CASTELHANO (10:54.25)
It was like, I sent you that clip of, what's his name, Michael B Jordan, when Sly was talking about, when they were filming Creed 2. And he's like, yeah, I want to be part of it. And Sly was like, well, if you want to be a part of it. Fun. Yeah. And then he gets a fucking sucker punch and got lights out. That was awesome.

That was creepy.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (11:12.876)
That guy. That's a pro fighter. Yeah, I forget his Tony. I forget his real name. He's he's been out of it for a minute. He lost Tony. Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony. Now he was a pro fighter and he was solid. He was a champion, but he had a couple of losses and I think he's kind of out of everything right now. But yeah, that guy's a pro fighter. And he hit him clean.

WES CASTELHANO (11:36.845)
Yeah.

Again, like apparently like he did he just gave him like he said like a little just a little extra like was it wasn't even like a wind up Yeah, but just dude he dropped. It was awesome. I like Michael B Jordan. I'm just

in animal

TREY BALLARD (11:51.63)
But yeah, no, I do think that this card is got the potential to have a little bit of late explosiveness as you work your way towards the shirt, the main card and the pay-per-view and the stuff. And I mean,

What's so special about this fight? Sorry, I'm just jumping in late.

It is obviously a title fight DDP Drigas Du Plessis is the current holder of that belt. Kamzat Chamov has moved up in weight

He's one of the guys that they've been building up for a while. Okay, so this is time to shine. Yeah, this is like his... I don't want to say shit or get off the pot, but like he's beaten everybody and beaten them in like incredible fashion and now he's finally got a towel shot, which I think he probably could have got maybe a year ago, but I think he got injured or he pulled out of a fight because he got sick or something. But now it's his time to do it and it's kind of like with the like how they build up like...

Rub and wait.

TREY BALLARD (12:33.931)
Got it started.

TREY BALLARD (12:41.847)
Yeah.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (12:48.13)
Patty the baddie and like what they did with some other guys and now it's like his time to actually Like even if he loses in a competitive fight He's not losing any stock But if he gets manhandled within two rounds, they're gonna be like, all right, man. Well money wasted. Yeah Well, yeah, now I mean if you want to transition over to the big news

to go get it.

TREY BALLARD (13:06.679)
Yeah.

TREY BALLARD (13:12.763)
Which was the deal that- things.

Paramount Plus right seven point seven billion dollars. I believe they just paid South Park one point Plus is coming after it. Yeah, but they canceled they canceled fucking late show with Colbert Because they've like money issues and I love Stephen Colbert, but I'll live. Yeah.

So it's gonna be on CBS

TREY BALLARD (13:33.07)
This subscription to watch these fights

All I'm saying is that like it's like peacock with WWE's doing like it's all I'm saying is like they can't complain like We just can't afford the light show. It's like dude. You just paid eight million dollars see there's layers to that like that's a whole different thing, but this is gonna be Like what Netflix of WWE with peacocks doing same thing It's gonna be I think it's gonna be the norm like this is what's gonna happen. I mean, it's gonna improve so Dana says Pay or pay

I'm sorry. It's gonna be good for everybody. It's gonna be more exposure for the fighters cuz like let's say Joe Schmel only watches like the ESPN fight night and Those guys aren't really like household names. You're just watching it just for whatever you're gonna get to actually see the max Holloway's and patty baddies and like these guys actually Engage, so that's the cool thing and then the other big news Try take it

Yeah.

TREY BALLARD (14:35.63)
You say what? White House. Oh the July 4th, sorry about that, Independence Day. There is going to be a UFC main event on the White House lawn. That is absolutely insane. I am ready to see this. Fourth of July. That's gonna be crazy. it's because it's a Saturday this year.

250th anniversary of our...

of the country. So, yeah, that's going to be crazy. Also, bro. The next pay per view, September 13th in San Antonio, so.

Like after the Cosmod or?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So the next pay-per-view is in San Antonio. Yeah, we were looking at that. And, but see this, I forgot we have a wedding to go to. It's always actually in the wedding, so.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (15:30.921)
Looking at me like we have a wedding.

I was just saying that As fun as that would have been to go to that would have been lit I was just like saying like me and so have a wedding to go to and she's in the wedding so Yeah, but I would have been so crazy But damn yeah, I just That that July 4th thing is gonna be crazy. Also October 25th Aspen all gone. Hey, Yeah, that's gonna be pretty interesting. I mean, I that's when all handles him but that

is an interesting matchup.

And then the third piece of news of UFC that came out, which has actually been confirmed by several sources, is that the UFC actually matched what John Joe's wanted, that 30 million dollars. They're like, all right, cool. Like, we can't do it at first. Like, whatever. Fuck you. And then they went and got some food, some food, some money from. Fucking hungry. Got some cabbage.

Yeah, food is hilarious. Starving, bro. Yeah.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (16:30.434)
They got some money from, think his investor, Turkey, whatever, from Middle East. And they called John and said, look, man, we got your bag. Let's do it. And he said.

Yeah

TREY BALLARD (16:42.114)
Nah, when in doubt run to the Middle East.

but the fact of the matter is that, and again, he's the greatest ever. So you can't really say respectfully that he's ducking somebody. But at the same time, I think he doesn't know enough about him.

I... Okay.

He's trying to frame us, he wants this bag. He needs to.

gonna fight again gonna fight again he needs but I think he wants to see how he looks Aspen looks against Cyril Gain because that's already confirmed and I think he wants to see that and I think he's just prepping or getting this all

TREY BALLARD (17:18.894)
John you know I think you to go you know, my favorite fighter bro quit ducking and just go fight this man And if you don't put your hands on him, then you put your hands on him But if not, bro, I see what you saying like damn if God if he can't be if he can't beat him You know if Asmina can't be gone a then hey Whatever, but like man, I don't styles make fights. That's how it goes in

I think it's all.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (17:41.292)
I think he's just playing the long game.

Man, styles make fights, bro. You gotta go out there. Sure. either you gonna go out there and put your hand, either you are that dominant where you gonna put your hands on whatever or you not. I'm sorry. If you that dude, you can go out there and you gonna prove that you that dude. Pereira ain't running from nobody. He keep lining up and going, you say, look, we can lay this shit down right now.

This is just my speculation. think Aspenall goes, fights Ghan obviously, beats him. I think whatever happens with the Pereira, I can never pronounce that guy's name. Thank you. Something like that. Whether he wins or loses, I think he moves up. I think he fights Aspenall. Whoever wins that, it's a win-win for Jon.

I'd

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (18:28.334)
It's both a huge bag for him and they fight at the White House. I don't see John Jones fighting between now and the White House. But Dana White also said, I can't trust this dude because remember UFC 200, he passes for fail the drug test and he's like, he's like, I can't put him on this card unless I know 100 % he's going to be there. So it's tricky.

That's what I'm saying. He needs to figure out if he truly want to go out here and prove that he is what he'd say he is and what we know he is because then he gonna be like, well, if y'all know what, no, bro, got to listen. He got it. It is. So that's what I'm saying. So either you go, if you don't, if you don't fight, then hang it up.

The legacy is set regardless.

TREY BALLARD (19:12.962)
That's my that's all I'm saying. He's not done and see that's what I'm saying. If you want to keep trying to add to your legacy, then you need to jump out there and do that and quit running from it. It feels like he running from it. He trying to see here surveyed landscape do all this shit. No, whoever want to line it up with you, bro, you got to go line that shit up and you got to say, all right, well, look, I'm number one. I'm that dude. And I'm going go out here and show you why. That's just that simple.

I think honestly, I think he just wants to party a

Remember hang it up. He took two years off between I can't remember his last fight at light heavyweight before he fought zero gone And even his last fight at light heavyweight. It was controversial. Yeah, I can't remember if it was Alex not Alex Smith He fought some other dude, but I'll look it up, but he fought him and that was controversial But he still did win like I looked everything up and it was close But he won and then even fight for almost two years then he beat zero gone and I think

Two and a half minutes. Which was whatever. And that guy, and Zero Gone was supposed to be the next big thing before even Tom Aspinal was even a subject. And now Aspinal is just doing his thing and he's a young guy. think John just being calculated and he wants to get in shape and like really, really be prepared to do this and have one more thing. And again, dude, if you lose.

He got hands put on him for sure.

TREY BALLARD (20:37.784)
Pay me out and then zero gun and Dominic Ray is before that.

Dominic Reyes, that's dumb. But he fought Dominic Reyes... He fought Dominic Reyes at lightweight, or light heavyweight, I'm sorry.

Yeah. But that was in... That was in 2020.

What are you talking about?

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (20:54.51)
Yeah, but I think there was lockdown everything and then like you can and then And when was serial game fight like 2023 so and then Steve was last year So again, he I think he's just being calculated and figure you should and just play on like devil's advocate kind of He's earned the right to do this a little bit like kind of like kind of like kind of like Floyd did like Floyd

And no that was that was right before lockdown

2023. Then for 2024. Yeah.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (21:24.564)
Every champion ever coming up and towards at the end he was like all right I'll fight this guy for this much money And I'll do this and I'll do that because you've earned the right you've beat the crap out of every single contender

He's his hands on shit.

Here listen to this analogy. Not an analogy, just a fact. Khabib went what? 15 and 0 in the UFC?

You got well I got the 20. Well, the.

That's MMA fights. UFC 15, I think. John Jones has 15 title defenses. So when people want to talk about the GOAT, I'm not, and I'm not knocking UB, but he's a beast and I'd be scared to see that guy, but he seems like a nice Muslim. I'm just saying like, like there's, there, I'm just saying like there's levels to like what these guys have done and what he's done.

TREY BALLARD (21:56.962)
I think it was.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (22:19.822)
Dude he's been doing this since 23 and he's what 37 now? like that 38 yeah like He just wants to party man But on the other side I will play the other side and say just stop fucking with UFC and just be like Dana like I'm not doing this or like yes or no

38 He needed to hang that shit up

TREY BALLARD (22:39.52)
That's what I'm saying like and I understand cuz like I said, he's my favorite fighter of all time And this is me saying like bro either do it or don't bro Like I understand if you want to turn up and shit wouldn't do that Like ain't nobody gonna be mad at you. If you don't want to fight another day in your life I'm not gonna lose no sleep over it But if you don't keep sitting here and just doing all that and I get it but like you just keep doing all this little Yeah, let me just

little stabby. It's really just holding them hostage and they know he's like he's like I want to say he's like not charismatic, but he's not like Connor. He's not obviously. Well, no one's Connor as far as that goes, but like he's just the GOAT and people want to see him perform and he didn't look really sluggish even though Steve was older, but like he looked good in that spinning sidekick.

I mean, he's been defending titles since March 19th of 2011. I understand. He's been defending. Like I'm looking there right now and like there's a title belt under every single one his last fights. is insane.

He has won no contest because he actually needed a guy when he was getting up, which is a BS thing.

That was yeah, but yeah, bro when you were looking at that and you were looking at Obviously when at that age how how active he was like I'm not asking him to be as active as he was then I'm just asking him if he gonna sit here and he like cuz you gonna get but that's thing You're gonna get your money regardless But it's a matter of do you actually want to fight these dudes or don't you and like I know you want to try to let it sort itself out and all that sort of shit like bro

TREY BALLARD (24:15.212)
You were the one that was supposed to be in there and said, God, this should have been Aspenal Jones from the get-go. For sure. This should have been that. That's what I'm saying. This feels almost like a goddamn Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao shit, even though Aspenal's a lot younger than them two.

when you think about it that was I mean manny and Floyd was built up for six seven years

Give or take it yeah, I mean more than that like in 2014

that they fought in. 13 and then him and Connor fund 16, but like that started in 2008, nine. Because number four retired for a minute after he beat Ricky Henn. So that's all maybe that's what he's doing. Maybe he's taking a page out of it. They're trying to build a.

Yeah.

TREY BALLARD (24:55.246)
I mean and I get that I just am like damn, but you don't wanna see you go out fight these dudes, bro

Dude, imagine if he goes in there and just beats the Christ out of. At the White House before the July, like that would be like the best. He had nothing against my. Yeah, can't.

Good! He should!

Like, go ahead and share.

That's one he said that's what that's another thing is if you want to sit here and you want to do all this and then you go out there and I'm looking up like I said in the middle of the fourth round and he's putting his hands on you yeah I'm you better win that's all I'm gonna say

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (25:28.578)
same time too though like if they still agree to 30 million and he still gets whatever UFC and Paramount plus agree to as far as like the fighters you're I guess it's more of a UFC thing but would they get like on the back end bro you're still making more probably in that one fight than you have in your entire career as far as like which is

couldn't crazy given that a lot of people with a lot of you are you know MMA USC guys were transitioning to try to do boxing yeah to try to get that back on door but I don't think that's ever gonna happen with him I'm just saying like it's crazy that UFC is now reaching a point to where you can start to do stuff like that now he's obviously had to put his time in for the last 14 years

He's not gonna

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (26:08.014)
Can't see John doing that because he's not a like he can he's a he can strike like obviously he's not a thing, but he's a wrestler

That's what I'm saying. I'm saying for him to be able to get to this point now in UFC, right? Where you can build it up to where you can get that.

He's not a Masvidal or Nate Diaz that are just strikers or like even the guys that are doing bare knuckle and everything like that like he doesn't need to do that any of that stuff I think he just wants one more and I don't think he's hurting for money. I think it's more He just wants like I've done so much for you guys for the last X amount of years Give me send off money

Yeah, it's And this specific event that we know is going to be absolutely massive. this is the common, like, feel like this, could be like a crescendo on, like, obviously the UFC is going to continue to trickle up, like, you know, but like that could, that event itself could be one of those things where it's like truly like a shift to where people truly start to jump more into UFC. Kind of like how it will never get as big as, don't think it'll ever be like the formula, like, but you know how when formula went like

things really changed when we did the documentary. And like the everyday person that wasn't watching it on Sundays truly got it inside and they were like, shit, I'm a Formula One fan.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (27:20.844)
I would not be surprised if the UFC does something similar to like what WWE just did with Unreal on Netflix like a behind-the-scenes thing like that and like you see like what Dana White goes through

more so like they put more into his like like his contender series and the ultimate fire and all that so

Contender series is so much better than Ultimate Fighter. It's awesome. That's they found, Sean O'Malley. That's really fun.

And a begin to in the container series boy hey begin

Cuz the ultimate fighter was just like the real world Nate Diaz was the best part of that show that's ever been on it right when he was just Beating guys up and throwing them in like beating them with noodles and throw them in the pool and stuff like he was so funny. I love Nate Diaz

TREY BALLARD (28:04.334)
But yeah, man, I look it's going to be a big card this weekend. UFC 319, man. Everybody tune in. I'm going to try to get off work and go watch it somewhere. And then obviously touching on MLB a little bit, you the Yanks got off that Shinnai. You know, can't really.

They gotta build on some of them, man.

be too happy about being four and six in your last 10 and six and a half back in the division. But still a lot of baseball left, you know. You got to figure out you got to figure out the best got away still continue to, you know, trend up like they did in that twin series. Obviously, it was against the twins who were second last in their division and the Yankees own them anyway. But, you know, you just got to kind of get that sour taste out your mouth and start trying to build on. Yeah.

I did.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (28:48.642)
They need to swallow some Listerine and just get over that man. It's it's been a tough walk. Because it's like again, like we touched on this last episode, it's always start of the season. And then kind of.

Yeah, in June and July, but that's literal that literal summer bull and then literally you this like either figure it out in August or just don't figure it out at all and then it's just Yeah,

I'm not holding my breath this year for them going back, but...

But at all, I just it's going to be like a miracle.

This offseason that Steinbrenner does something where he just makes huge moves because there is a Lot of big names out there that are to be had for either trades or free agents where and Garrett Cole granted He came off a surgery a couple years ago came back was incredible And he's not in sports Nature like he's not a young guy anymore. Like I believe he's 34

TREY BALLARD (29:42.264)
But as you get older, that's not something

TREY BALLARD (29:53.262)
I was just going to say 35.

So he's in that ballpark. And he still played lights out in the World Series last year. Like he was incredible. He's there. Yeah. So he's and I think he's got a year or two left in his contract. So they got to figure some stuff out. Like they go to get like go get another like AJ Burnett like they did in like today's time. You know what I mean? That team. They got Cece and then they still had Pettit and like.

34, about to be 35.

TREY BALLARD (30:19.052)
And you still got Max Fried. still got two top line guys, obviously. But I will say with the young arms like Louis Hill and Will Warren and they even want to give camp like they want to give some of the young guys a chance. And I get that. But if they can get it, get a couple of guys in the free Asian market that quality top line start. I'm excited.

For them to bring that, what's the young man's up the young man and the miners that they like refuse to trade unless they're getting

The lefty yeah, yeah, he he mashing she he's yes, mr. Jones is going crazy

He's the only person they said they would trade for Paul Skeen.

But he's been raking though could be that's true that's valid I am listen I Look, I'm a huge Paul skins fan. He actually went to LSU out of the transfer portal from Air Force over, Texas So I've been for but like bro Spencer Jones is gonna tell

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (31:15.566)
Paul skeens and livi dunn want to attract some free agents on

Listen, he's but wait, but what the hell is Livy Dunn got to do with that if she's with Paul Skeen?

You see what she looks like?

then people ain't finna come there if they can't have a shot at it. I don't think that's how that's gonna work.

I will

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (31:34.638)
I'm just saying, I'm just saying it's gonna bring more attention to the Yankees. It's gonna bring- There's already enough- I'm obviously being hypothetical. I don't think guys are gonna be like, let's go sound with the Yankees so we can just watch or touch our toes in the sky.

Man, that's bad.

TREY BALLARD (31:48.686)
Me or it be done bro dog. There's already enough attention on the Yankees bro is and we're not winning right now. That's And that's what I'm saying. Like we need positive energy and I don't know. Over is going to be he's.

That's what I'm saying, not positive energy.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (32:05.026)
24 I think if that 24 25

If that might be younger than that

TREY BALLARD (32:16.27)
Yeah, he never he didn't serve he's 23, okay, he just turned 23 in May, okay

And let's say they sent him to a 10 year I don't want to say Otani contract, but like 500 million something like that. And you build around that. Judge still has I mean, he's getting 33, 34 a couple of years. Like, I don't know, man. Like that's something to be excited about. You know, that's so you attract free agents that way. How what does he? Just.

it.

He's a fucking tank. Yeah. He's 6'6, 2'6. He's a tank. Yeah, he's a tank. All right.

That was my analogy for his dick by the way

TREY BALLARD (32:58.39)
Trust I knew Explaining that one to me. Yeah, one of my cousins always said he's proportional There you go. So I Do you did have to explain that one to me buddy six six two sixty. I'll be there was just the only a few ways that can go Yeah, I'm not gonna do it again. Yeah, okay

It was more just the dead weight.

TREY BALLARD (33:20.486)
Wouldn't want to see because it's only a few ways only a few ways that could go you know and hey, you know I'm not we're not in that business,

But no, I think that's just something they should. I mean, unless they really, really believe this kid is like it.

Brother, he's raking. Like he is rake.

But why not bring him up yet?

because you already brought up the fucking Martian last year, right before this year. And so.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (33:53.23)
You think it's more like why bring them now like we don't really have anything to go for like

Well, that and that literally and also again, you we did just bring up Jason Dominguez who we had been arguing for the number of years anyway, signed Cody Bellinger to play out there. Obviously, Judge got hurt, but Judge was out there. Then when he got hurt, he comes back as the edge you got. You still got Giancarlo. I don't think you want to bring him up. And like, even though you're still going to have his service time regardless, because there's only 40 games left.

I don't think you want to bring him up knowing that you have the options to play outfield that you do whenever you continue to see him develop. He's raking at a young age, but he's just still one of the

When's Stan's contract up? Soon.

No 2017 got in 2017 it's gotta be literally within the next year. It's got he got to be a free agent after next year I feel like I feel like it's got to be after next year

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (34:50.786)
Cause yeah, they even if they keep him on a small contract and then keep judge there and bring up the new guy and. But also at the same time, think skein's contract is up after next season.

Thanks anyway.

TREY BALLARD (35:06.606)
Hold on, am I trippin?

Cause do you really think he's gonna stay in Pittsburgh? I've been, I'm sure it's a cool city, like it's a great sports town, but.

I mean, he doesn't want to

TREY BALLARD (35:22.693)
Oh wait no, Stan signed at 13 year 325. Oh so his deal is a club option in 2028 after 2028. So he's still got next year and the year after that.

Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. I just again like kind of like we touched on last episode. I Just want them to get back to the old Yankees were like, you know, you're having some like a lineup We need that bridge like I said last time I hate to sound like a broken record we need Championship pedigree in the clubhouse or in the gym area and which Brian Cashman does have

That's tough to do.

TREY BALLARD (36:02.382)
But he's not utilizing it. But that was when he and that's the thing. No, it's too is I Obviously I'm super critical to him, but I will get like it isn't but it isn't the 90s anymore like the thing it's it is honestly a very very different sport in terms of Not only analytics because that's not the only thing but in terms of scouting being able to find like you more so than ever now you have to find guys that fit what you do because

the baseline of it's mean, honestly, just like in the NBA, it really any professional sport, like the big three, especially you have to figure out where the baseline is for guys that are like role players in a sense. You have your top end guys. got your mid tier guys. You got your lower end guys. Those guys that are in that mid tier, they're going to be the difference between you actually going far in the playoffs and when because your stars aren't always going to be there. I know baseball is like that, too. I'm like.

That's more NBA.

But you find guys on the margins and it's like not even the moneyball approach, bro. It's those guys that literally like for for the Yankees, like going to get in the left hand and hitter like that makes a difference. Come with that short report. You know, I mean, just little things like that for sure. You know, I mean, whether it be pitching in your state, like just, you know, I mean, and like how in your division, like you got to they typically try it out, you know, for lefties. And then you've got this picture that you go get and he pitches great. You know, I mean, this is all these little things on the margins that make a bigger difference. I agree.

I mean

TREY BALLARD (37:29.41)
than pure time.

say the NBA Demographic is different or changing in the sense which I know they've been saying it for a minute, but I'm not saying like I'm like a sub on everything, but it's just I test and you know it. Like the teams are trying to be so top heavy now. You look at the last few teams that have won. Even if you go back to the 2008 Celtics who still had a big three.

But dude, their bench, like they had a solid bench there. And you notice like the heat didn't... Like they lost to the Mavs. But then the next year they came back and they had these dudes come off the bench and I'm not gonna sit here and be like, Mike Miller was the game changer. But like, you have dudes like that that can come off and knock out shots and stuff like that. Like even the Nuggets a couple years ago, they had dudes come off the bench that would just... Like KCP was just...

Yeah, and I agree Bruce Brown. Yeah, I mean now they built it but then again also then and then those dudes winning got paid Yeah, and having anymore so now you like

And the Lakers should have never let him go.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (38:40.942)
Same with Alex Caruso. The Lakers could have paid him.

yeah. I mean, I was upset that let him go. I mean, Javel McGee, Dwight Howard, that whole championship team. But that's the thing is like they want to repeat it. They try to. But these guys try to cut corners. Yeah, well. Well, that was the LeBron A.D. wanted to Marga Rosen, but Rob Blinker thought it would make more sense to pay Westbrook over there.

You should have never let him

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (38:56.65)
wonder westbrook lebron nearly one of us

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (39:08.632)
Martyr Rosen might be one of the most underrated players. His Mediterranean game...

I had his jersey, I had his OVO jersey, I forgot where I put it, where I put it, but.

And that Bulls team was kind of exciting like after they made those moves with Lonza Ball, Caruso, Throsen and I can't remember exactly if Ian was already there but those four were really exciting even though they were all kind of like the same position.

Because that was whenever they remember cuz Levine they traded for the timber was traded for Jimmy Butler. That's right

It was exciting even though they were all kind of like in the same position like they were all like guards or like smaller forwards and stuff Yeah, I mean if Lonzo doesn't get hurt and that's so many what-ifs like anything else, It could be interesting on the Cavs this year too, man

TREY BALLARD (39:47.128)
for sure.

TREY BALLARD (39:52.75)
He can be. He got a little knee re-graft and what not. So yeah, we're gonna see man. We're gonna see what happens.

Next year is going to be interesting, and that's why the NBA... I don't want to say is... I don't want to is the best league, but...

You just don't know. Like the NFL, you could say like, you know who's going into it.

The parodies is caught up with what the NFL used to be. That's what like in the early 2000s and into the 2010s, like that was what it was that really for a lot of people put the NFL over the NBA was you just knew who was going to be in that finally know at the end. Yeah. You I mean, you sure you didn't really know that with the NFL a lot of times. Obviously, you had Brady seems like, you know, that sort of stuff. But it was only one of those teams. You know, I mean, it was only one one guy that was really, you know, doing that at that point. So I

I like too incorrect if I'm wrong. feel like there's less less star movement in the NFL than there is in the NBA. know what I mean? NBA is like who's going to this studs going here and that where and then NFL. NFL it's like oh the Chiefs just signed the best offensive guard in the league. You're like.

TREY BALLARD (40:56.366)
for sure. Yeah, cuz they don't the contract just do

TREY BALLARD (41:04.844)
It's for sure.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (41:14.272)
Yeah, that's cool.

Cool, but like there's rumors that obi like there was a fake post that obi that got me to obj retired which I only reason it got me because I wasn't surprised I wouldn't be surprised like when he knows if he if he signed with somebody sure but like I'm not also wouldn't be surprised if he retired today like It's just the way the NFL is bro. It's the way it works. I saw some

today about that and I thought it was a joke but it says he's retiring in 2026.

Like I said, I wasn't surprised that if he would have retired on Monday, it wouldn't have surprised me. Like injuries have zapped him, it seems. mean, he had a couple good moments last year with the Dolphins, but I mean, if he retired, it wouldn't surprise me. It's just that point now. It is what it is.

I mean, they're the two best leagues in American sports. Hands down, obviously NFL, I think has the edge, but it's...

TREY BALLARD (42:05.802)
It definitely has the edge. would say that the NBA loses people with how much the players run the league, is one, which is a different argument. But I just like basketball as a sport better. Like I do like the reason I really do love football, though, is like it's a once a week thing. So it's so everything. There's so much passion behind it. You know me. And so like with the NBA, with basketball in general, you get more than one game a week. So like I can appreciate that.

And I love the fact that I get to watch it more throughout the year. You know, mean, like NBA or NFL, cultural ball is one again is once a week. You got to playoffs. Boom. But like when NBA like I get so much more content and then the sport itself for me is one that I love to just watch as much as I can. And the same thing, I mean, with all sports, honestly. But if it came down to one where it's like if I could pick one where I could get to watch any point, any time I'm a big basketball. But like, obviously, I'm watching football right now. Sure.

And one thing too, I kind of like this is maybe controversial a little bit, but I feel like you get to see the NFL stars that are coming up more. I shouldn't say more, but like than the NBA because NBA that are. Number one draft picks and this and that, like you can use Zion, for example, or you could use like so many different people and be like.

And they come out of nowhere.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (43:30.614)
Who's that dude that was drafted by the Cav? Yes, played like, that's I'm saying, like people like that.

Anthony Bennett.

You know who the number one like Greg Odin number one football to like the

Granted that was injury is L has so many different like when they're coming up like Again, I'm just gonna name a couple like to a Everyone expects big things from him. He's got concussions whatever Trevor Lawrence You could get in Daniel like there's so many even Cotter Murray everyone still in there to like Warner Baker A lot of people are making or saying the Bucks are a Super Bowl contender this year

Yeah.

TREY BALLARD (44:02.178)
Baker Mayfield. Turn that. James Winston.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (44:12.716)
I mean, I think we're counted anyways. Wes, what do think?

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (44:39.534)
Sound pretty good? Yeah we first started it was like echoing in my ear so I didn't know if it was coming clear or not.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (45:07.47)
Fixed it.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (45:17.624)
So you're just gonna like switch each frame back to back or like whenever we're talking.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (45:38.082)
What are you

So you got the whole thing figured out? yeah. Alright, bet.

But anyways, yeah, no, this is all I saying, is like, there's so many big names that you just are still waiting for to see what they're gonna do.

See if they can break out and figure out where.

Like the NBA, if you go back and look at their drafts, like... I mean, I'm not trying to like, throw shade on anybody, but like, you pumped to see like, Cade Cunningham come out? You know what mean? He's incredible!

TREY BALLARD (46:11.694)
I mean not like Not like initially but like I was I was hyped about the fact he was from state of Texas Which is cool, but like his game itself. It wasn't anything that I was just like shit like that's can't miss now Yeah, even like coming out, you know what his skill set compared like compared to everyone else's in that drive was like I was like, okay Yeah, like he no more pick height, you know, that's cool like him and man like, know, there's some guys

green like you

Yeah, like he was supposed, mean, Jalen Green, he just he's not focused on hoop like he should be. like I said, with the NBA for me, though, is I I'm able to track it better just because of the accounts that I follow and who I get my information from. I feel like a lot of it has to do with like if people don't know, whether it's MLB, NBA, NFL, if you don't know where to really get information from.

It's harder to keep up with too because like it's so much. It's so much. It's so many new like you said, it's somebody every year so

And there's also so many people in the media, like media personalities, and I think you and I talked about this maybe when I called him before he moved here, but there's so many public media figures that just say stuff.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (47:29.582)
And like you go back and look at like other stuff years ago, and they sound like the biggest assholes ever Yeah, like and I like Colin Howard because I he's funny. Yeah, but dude he has so many things that he said Ten years ago like when Brown was 32 and Ben Simmons was coming up remember he was like hey LeBron We got Ben Simmons. You're good. You can retire like stuff like that

If you're saying some BS.

TREY BALLARD (47:55.438)
And that was because of that. And that was because of him. And there was other people like going with that take of of Ben Simmons being next LeBron and shit, which they was because the comparison was whenever they was telling Ben Simmons, the reason why he stopped shooting was if you don't have to shoot jumpers, if they can't stop you from getting to the rim, why shoot jumpers? But in hindsight, obviously, that sounds and looks crazy now because this is like, yeah, you have to be able to keep defensive on this no matter what you know I'm saying. So

Why are you just sitting here listening to them say, yeah, don't worry about shooting jumpers. You're not going to have to worry about it. They can't stay in front of you. And then it is going to sit here and play off. You like they did Rondo back in the day. And what are you going to I like me too. I was like, are you going

I'm going up. Yeah, a jump shot. But can I also say that I love that you just use the term keeping you honest because I used to always say that about boxing and people wouldn't understand what I meant.

I'm gonna keep jabbing you in your shit.

because people would always be like, because again, I'm a huge Floyd Mayweather fan and people would be like, or Floyd would say, Floyd would be like, if I don't hit hard, then why aren't these guys as rush at me? And Max Kellerman, who I think is one of the

TREY BALLARD (48:52.174)
and gotta keep them honest.

TREY BALLARD (48:57.368)
you open up.

Like, yeah.

TREY BALLARD (49:08.546)
best best out there easily ever easily

ever he's so just Not only is educated about the sport. He loves it and like he knows what he's doing like All these guys like Lampley and all them like sure they're fine But max like knows what he's doing and I like Roy Jones when he did it too like back when HBO was doing it before they left but When they say keeping you honest like Floyd Like again if you're not

If I'm not hitting you hard enough to like boom like press your nose Then why not just push me? Yeah, would just break his hands after every fight. That's why he fought only Cinco de Mayo and fight week in September 13th or whatever it was or Mexican Independence Day But like dude to keep somebody honest and boxing and then people be like, Floyd doesn't hit that hard Why don't you knock him out? Why didn't you pressure him? because he was fucking

Yeah.

TREY BALLARD (49:47.266)
You can hear me.

TREY BALLARD (49:58.712)
Yeah.

TREY BALLARD (50:05.422)
Okay.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (50:09.81)
Tagging it was brown in your eye like you couldn't push him and that's the thing that people got so frustrated about Floyd was like I'm gonna kill this asshole like he talked so much shit But I can't touch him and he still just touched me and by the fifth sixth round you're like like I'm gonna kill this guy looking like a pirate Just one eye in it

He tagging

TREY BALLARD (50:31.598)
Ain't finna do a damn thing. Type shit. Yeah. Nah, I'm you a thousand percent. They be, bro, they be a-fraudin'.

You ever see the interview with Terrence Crawford and he's talking about Floyd and he's like, yeah, he's like me and Floyd weren't that close, but now he's like a mentor to me and all this. And they were talking about like, what do you think was so special about fluid and all this? And he was like, well, one, like he's just a master, like he doesn't drink or smoke and like he just loves the sport and appreciates three, two, three generations into it. Like it's just all this stuff.

J.S.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (51:08.11)
And then he was like, um, and then one time he and I are messing around and this and that. And he was like, and Floyd and I, cause they had similar, cause remember when Floyd was like 135, 140, he was when he was, um, pretty boy Floyd, not Floyd money. He was knocking people out and then, and then he got, and then he started his hand and then Terrence Crawford is like, that's kind of when we became closer because like just, you know, like

He

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (51:35.106)
You know, just in the fight game and this and that and the guy was like, do you think you beat Floyd? And he was just like, hmm. He's like, is that a yes or no? And he was just like, he's like Floyd's a magician, like no one can beat him. Like he's just that dude, like no one can touch him. Like he was just, and especially that fight, which I'm assuming that

Terrence Crawford is gonna try to mirror when he fights Canelo, even though Canelo was 22 when they fought, but still had like 30 fights under his belt.

I feel like an actor. Yeah, he's getting to it.

But I feel like he's gonna try to mirror that, but that's gonna be a really exciting fight, Who do you have?

Yeah, that shit gonna be lit.

TREY BALLARD (52:27.948)
My head is saying Canelo, but I'm just gonna root for Crawford, because fuck it, why not?

It's tough because Canelo still is the face of- And it's more of his comfortable weight, but at the same time, Crawford has a genocide.

and it's for Crawford.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (52:51.404)
It's going to be interesting.

I think I think Canelo should win but I'm rooting for Crawford. I'm gonna say that right now

Crawford wins this... and he fights like...

one or two more guys maybe not at that weight maybe goes down another because they're fighting at middle weight right which is 150

I think so. Yeah, I think like 154.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (53:17.198)
154 I'm sorry yeah because Walter Wade's 147 so if he even does that even he fights aero spent again at that which Spence should fight like mini Pacquiao like get a bag and you know I mean

Which I don't think he should fight, Spence don't need that.

TREY BALLARD (53:33.592)
And I don't even know the spins need to go get a bag cuz he's clearly showing you know You know what never mind. We're gonna get into that. I'm just hero man. Shout out the Dallas is I do too. I just want to make sure

Love AeroSpin.

I did I'm just saying like if aero spends comes back and fights and I follow him in Instagram like He seems like he's trying to get back in the right track, and I still think he's a I believe he's a young man He's still not an old guy but like even if you felt like I We talked about this before but if you felt like a Keith Thurman or something stupid like that But if you Pacquiao who's still fighting at 46 which is nuts to me, but

Yeah.

TREY BALLARD (54:05.806)
Yeah.

MATT TRAVAGLIONE (54:14.146)
There's just so many different options for him. I just don't want to see him fight Terrence Crawford again because But he figured you out in the first Four or six rounds like what's gonna do next time? And that was like a breeze to him too, and I still thought up until that fight That I was like, Terrence Crosser happens like has he unfawny buddy like he's still like just coming up, right dude.

Yeah, for sure.

TREY BALLARD (54:39.022)
Yeah, nah, yeah, so it's a wrap but hey man look UFC 319 this week man listen or this weekend. Hey, you know what to find us on the the on the weekends and and and when things is going you know Whenever we got all the sports going on and all these events, you know what to find this man Strike zones the end zone soon to be in zones and strike zones Yeah, you already know

Yup.